[Goatdal22]

Those are opinions and nothing more. Nadal has not won the slam race yet since they are both still playing. He is a great player and has won on all four slams, but he chose his style of play when he knew there were two slams on hard court. Clay and grass are not more prestigious than hard court (by awarded points) according to the governing body of the sport, the ATP of which Nadal is on the player's council. Yes, clay is widely used, but it is only 25% at the highest levels which is again something Nadal knew when he began tennis. Agree that Nadal has a large lead over Djokovic on his main surface which dominates his resume, but Djokovic is only one behind Federer on grass slams. Djokovic is an all around player, more so than Nadal which is easily shown but the numbers. The 'facts' you are choosing are 'special pleading' by taking the limited information that benefits your emotional position. I never hit the report button.

Ok, so I just answered all your assertions with logic rather than emotion and selective chose of results. I also taught philosophy in a Top 50 university in the world. Look, I understand you are excited because Nadal, due to political reasons, now temporarily has the slam lead, though not the lead in anything else, except 1 OG to 0 for Federer and Djokovic, but it seems to me it is out of your insecurity, and I hope you do not have an extreme depression when Djokovic takes over the slam race in a couple of years which along with his being ahead in almost everything else will allow him to 'win' the GOAT debate for anyone with any logic at all.

You have no answer to my facts lol. Nadal is GOAT. Thats where we are today. We cannot talk about what may happen. Djokovic is a hard court specialist and limited compared to Nadal and Federer. The facts are there for all to see. Not opinion. Cold hard fact. Djokovic has never won an FO getting by fit Nadal. Never won Wimbledon beating prime Federer.

 

[Phoenix*]

YEC vs the least important slam.

 

[NadalwillneverbeGoat]

RG is more valuable than YEC for everyone except Ralph Nadal.

 

[Yukimura]

 

[Soliloque]

YEC vs the least important slam.

RG is literally the most broadcasted and watched Slam in the World.
Most people in Europe, Africa and South America grow up on clay and dream about it.


Troll better. Please. This is 6yo discovering Reddit for the first time kind of level.

 

[154678]

YEC vs the least important slam.

The least important slam is by far the AO. Up until the 80's most players skipped it. It did gain back a little importance this year thanks to Australia doing the right thing when they deported the threat to public order Djokovic... But despite this great move that made Australia one of the best countries in the world as it stood up for the millions of people who suffered and died it's still less prestigious than the other 3. However if they do go ahead with the full 3 year ban proving even more competence and merit then I will upgrade it to the level of the other 3 slams.

 

[ScottieBarnes]

Nobody dreams of winning the YEC, it's a fine tournament but Fed and Djokovic would trade all of theirs for one Gold singles medal.

 

[RafaKingofKings]

Nobody has a chance at beating Nadal so most don’t care for RG while Rafa doesn’t give a crap about the YEC because it’s just some novelty tournament at the end of the year

 

[The Final Boss]

AO is least important slam on my opinion.

 

[Tipical]

Oh, what a disastrous day was when you found the publish poll feature. Will ever be remembered as the start of the dark age of the utter stupid polls.

 

[Xenosys]

RG is by some distance the worst slam, but it's still more valuable than a YEC.

 

[swissmaestro92]

OH FFS STOP! Too many threads trying to discredit Nadal already, even if i do put him 3rd

 

[R]

Thread:

 

[139730]

Most butthurt post yet 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[xdrewitdajx]

How many polls have to go the opposite way you want them to until you stop?

 

[154678]

1. GOATdal: 22 slams and 21-11 slam h2h

2. Pushovic: 21 slams and 18-17 slam h2h

3: Frauderer: 20 slams and 10-21 slam h2h

 

[Disintegrator]

What do you mean , you'd like a straighforward answer now?

You think I'm your student here? 🧐

You find that I don't give enough details in my answers since my first post but you prefer a yes or no, without any nuance?

Don't dream, I know enough about the evolution of the circuit, the game played, its surfaces for more than 40 years not to bury myself in this kind of yes / no answer with blinkers on everything that does not comfort the current era.

If you have had the opportunity to read my other posts, you should know this..

I'm asking you a question whether you think it is easier to dominate HC + grass or clay + any of the other two surfaces? Save the mumbo-jumbo.

To answer your questions.

No, I don't think you're my student. It was not my intention to give you that impression.

I think you put empashis on a lot of details not relevant to the question. And the reason is that it is very inconvenient for your cause to agree with me but you can't really go against it either because you know that when all is said and done it's pretty fucking obvious which combination goes hand in hand.

 

[florentine]

I think you put empashis on a lot of details not relevant to the question. And the reason is that it is very inconvenient for your cause to agree with me but you can't really go against it either because you know that when all is said and done it's pretty fucking obvious which combination goes hand in hand.

Do not overinterpret my words for your comfort, and simply agree that I gave you the conclusive example of Lendl, and that this one is more than enough.

What you call mumbo-jumbo or empashis because it doesn't suit you, that's your problem if I don't give you the answer you're hoping for, not mine.

I am in no way embarrassed and have no cause to defend, it is not me who is on the court in place of the players.

Now, if you misunderstood my initial post with its mumbo jumbo, nothing prevents you from reading it again slowly.. and calmly, it is quite self-explanatory and I have nothing to add to it.

Otherwise, I can't do anything more for you and it doesn't matter, neither for you nor for me.

 

[anticaria]

clay > hc > grass, mate

You seem very lost

Phoenix is hopelessly lost in Bitterlandia, the homeland of embittered trolls. Pay him no mind.

 

[154678]

Here's a different look when we put the Big 3 members face to face on who leads in each of the categories: Slams, Olympics, WTF and M1000.


Nadal vs Federer

Slams - Nadal
Olympics - Nadal
WTF - Federer
Masters 1000 - Nadal


Nadal vs Djokovic

Slams - Nadal
Olympics - Nadal
WTF - Djokovic
Masters 1000 - Djokovic


Federer vs Djokovic

Slams - Djokovic
Olympics - Federer
WTF - Federer
Masters 1000 - Djokovic


Nadal vs Djokovic vs Federer

Slams - Nadal
Olympics - Nadal
WTF - Federer
Masters 1000 - Djokovic