Can we not just accept for once that one bloody tennis match doesn't mean we have a Finnish and a GOAT at the end? Did we not learn anything in the past decades, ffs? Can we just enjoy the moment for once and watch these juggernauts fight it out without ensuing conversations about ridiculous notions and how many Slams one needs to be better than X, Y and Z?

 

No.

 

You're really working overtime today after a long hiatus, SetSampras. Maybe just find a pastime until tomorrow's final?

 

He's still 'only' third favourite for Wimbledon even if he wins RG.

 

No, I'd say favorites for W in order are: Chuck, Sin City (or swap them possibly), and then third is Djokovic!!

 

Well, he is already a multi-slam champion, a feat that no one can take away from him, unlike the trio of Dimi-Nishi-Rao and the trio of Med-Zve-Tsi, along with Thiem, who couldn't accomplish the same. Basically, he did something that two generations of tennis players couldn't do, and something that you couldn't write off just like that.

 

No doubt tomorrow is put up or shut up time for Sinner. If he loses tomorrow no one can take his number 1 ranking away from him but it will be much like Sabalenka on the WTA side, his number 1 ranking will feel very fraudulent and undeserved even though he deserve it.

But the pressure is also on Carlos. If he loses tomorrow he will be a clear number 2 behind Sinner. If Carlos wins tomorrow and I think he will he's the real number 1 despite what the computer says. That's the stakes in grand slam finals, that's why I love them.

The good news for the loser is Wimbledon is close so they will have a chance to quickly change the narrative.

 

No doubt tomorrow is put up or shut up time for Sinner. If he loses tomorrow no one can take his number 1 ranking away from him but it will be much like Sabalenka on the WTA side, his number 1 ranking will feel very fraudulent and undeserved even though he deserve it.

Well he won the 2025 AO though, Sabalenka lost the 2025 AO F AND the 2025 FO F!! I don't think it'd be fraudulent in his case, just that he can into a guy who's really good on clay in 2025 (won MC, made the B final, skipped M, won the R title over Sin City), made the FO F at least did Chuck, so we'll see tomorrow...

 

Honestly, Jannik probably does feel like his pride is on the line. He'll still be #1, but nobody feels good about losing to the same person potentially 5x in a row. But it's for those same reasons that if he wins, it'll be the biggest win of his career

 

There is absolutely no way Sinner will lose to that Luckaraz.
One is a dominant champion who shall rule his own era whilst the other one is a pretender who only sits on the throne in short spurts.

Sinner defeats Carlos in 4 sets tomorrow, mark my words!
The only way he can possibly lose to Alcaraz is if:
he deliberately tanks the match
or
gets stage 4 cancer, fractured knee and broken two arms all at the same time

 

The only way he can possibly lose to Alcaraz is if:
he deliberately tanks the match
or
gets stage 4 cancer, fractured knee and broken two arms all at the same time

Have to admit, I never considered the stage 4 cancer scenario....

 

The OP is the real "punk".

 

Sinner is never going to be GOAT, that's ludicrous. He's not going to win 25 slams, 100 tournaments or amass the type of resumes the big 3 have.

 

Sinner has to beat Alcaraz or he is a punk? How about Federer beating Nadal and Djokovic zero times in slams for about seven years each?

 

No, Indeed. If you lose five consecutive times against your main opponent, out of which four on His favourite surface and one in Beijing on hard, with the penultimate defeat being a 7-6 6-little Rome final, there is no way you turn the Table in the 15 years that follow. Exhibit:

BTW, why TF should we be even talking about GOAThood or even worry about it for 20yo kids who win stuff since two years in a sport where we just got three guys winning 20 plus slams across two decades?

 

And Alcaraz losing a slam final on his best surface to a player who is just coming back from not playing for 3 months wouldn't make him a punk?

 

His best surface is Grass, not Clay.

 

But it's not 5th loss in a row, Sinner won against Alcaraz in Riyadh.

 

I think both have a lot to lose (and win) - Sinner as the clear #1 and probably most in form player at the moment and Alacaraz as the def champion and better suited for the surface

 

So harsh

 

so? what is it?

 

Eagerly awaiting the followup to SetSampras's proclamation.. lol