[Muzzafan]

You're seething so hard you are gonna get hurt in the ass even worse than you are already. I was gonna ask you how does it feel to be Carlos's little bitch's fanboy, but I don't think I need to ask after this post. It's gonna be a long journey for you. You bet on the wrong horse and your ass is gonna pay for it. And I'm enjoy enjoy every bit of it, so thanks for this message.


You know, there is this thing called REALITY, where a doper got banned and doesn't get to obtain any imaginary ATP points over it, as much as you would like to act like they robbed a cheater of something he was surely gonna get. You might not like it, but it is what it is. Undefeated when not banned for doping is not a thing.

No sense of humour whatsoever to be found. Typical. It’s very normal in conversations like this to compare the tournaments and do a bit of banter, but perhaps it would too much for an Alcabubu to handle. You couldn’t even handle me calling Alcaraz a ‘bee’ and you didn’t even know the context despite being his fan. Then you disappeared forever after the Wimbledon final, only to suddenly reappear after the USO final.

Your desperation to make me angry at this H2H is hilarious. I always found it to be a meaningless stat outside of slams.

Now go make a paella.

 

[Muzzafan]

How do you know Alcaraz would not have nabbed more points too had Sinner played? He did admit his ban had affected his mindset as well (less motivation).

Sounds like a excuse to me, yet you seem ready to swallow anything.

 

[FilipoSVK]

No sense of humour whatsoever to be found. Typical. It’s very normal in conversations like this to compare the tournaments and do a bit of banter, but perhaps it would too much for an Alcabubu to handle. You couldn’t even handle me calling Alcaraz a ‘bee’ and you didn’t even know the context despite being his fan. Then you disappeared forever after the Wimbledon final, only to suddenly reappear after the USO final.

Your desperation to make me angry at this H2H is hilarious. I always found it to be a meaningless stat outside of slams.

Now go make a paella.

You called it exactly like it is in your previous post, and I did the same several days ago: a typical example of a member of a worse (and apparently bigger) part of the 'butthurt' Alca fans talking constant nonsense when you confront them with facts or even the slightest thing against their favourite. They don't even understand the little banter you usually have with other Alca fans.

Whenever you mention Sinner, on the other hand, you're attacked by words like doper, cheater, Clostebot, or other bullshits.

 

[dariustitus9]

Calling Sinner a doper and a cheater isn't an attack, it's just facts. We all know you Sinnertards would've been even less classy if Alcaraz was the one falling 2 doping tests and coming up with a ridiculous excuse for it.

 

[FilipoSVK]

Calling Sinner a doper and a cheater isn't an attack, it's just facts. We all know you Sinnertards would've been even less classy if Alcaraz was the one falling 2 doping tests and coming up with a ridiculous excuse for it.

Are you aware these words have been banned from using by a rule, right? So keep using them and the ban hammer will be pulled out sooner or later.

 

[Muzzafan]

Calling Sinner a doper and a cheater isn't an attack, it's just facts. We all know you Sinnertards would've been even less classy if Alcaraz was the one falling 2 doping tests and coming up with a ridiculous excuse for it.

You don’t know shit, Detritus9. Calling Sinner a cheater is typical of a butthurt fanbase that wanted Sinner banned for two years (or forever) so their boy could go unopposed in slams.

“But muh H2H” - they are 2-1 in slam finals and 4-2 in slams overall, which is not even close to domination.

@Slasher1985 said it himself. Without Sinner Baldcaraz would have never improved like he did because the rest of the tour would not have required it, and we wouldn’t see this level. But Detritus9 just wants everything to go his way like a little baby.

 

[dariustitus9]

You don’t know shit, Detritus9. Calling Sinner a cheater is typical of a butthurt fanbase that wanted Sinner banned for two years (or forever) so their boy could go unopposed in slams.

“But muh H2H” - they are 2-1 in slam finals and 4-2 in slams overall, which is not even close to domination.

@Slasher1985 said it himself. Without Sinner Baldcaraz would have never improved like he did because the rest of the tour would not have required it, and we wouldn’t see this level. But Detritus9 just wants everything to go his way like a little baby.

You've been crying non-stop since USO final to the point of even stalking other people's profiles to "expose" them, go outside and touch some grass.

 

[Muzzafan]

You've been crying non-stop since USO final to the point of even stalking other people's profiles to "expose" them, go outside and touch some grass.

Your obsession with convincing others that my posts are “crying” is projection. Just because Baldie’s loss at Wimbledon made you cry, doesn’t mean I’m going to follow your example. You’re just annoyed that I’m not bothered by a loss. I accepted the loss, congratulated the winner, and said he deserved it and earned it. I’m not going anywhere so learn to live with it.

It’s just a sport. This happens all the time. You’re either 10 years old, a gambling addict, or just dumb. Calm down.

 

[FilipoSVK]

You've been crying non-stop since USO final to the point of even stalking other people's profiles to "expose" them, go outside and touch some grass.

I don't know, but the only one I see crying here at the moment is you, not Muzzafan.

 

[dariustitus9]

Your obsession with convincing others that my posts are “crying” is projection. Just because Baldie’s loss at Wimbledon made you cry, doesn’t mean I’m going to follow your example. You’re just annoyed that I’m not bothered by a loss. I accepted the loss, congratulated the winner, and said he deserved it and earned it. I’m not going anywhere so learn to live with it.

It’s just a sport. This happens all the time. You’re either 10 years old, a gambling addict, or just dumb. Calm down.

Wrong all accounts as usual.

I don't know, but the only one I see crying here at the moment is you, not Muzzafan.

Of course, butthurts tend to flock together.

 

[Muzzafan]

Wrong all accounts as usual.

Of course, butthurts tend to flock together.

In Beijing this year Sinner is going to puke into another bin and you are going to shit your pants.

 

[AntiTardDefenseSystem]

You're seething so hard you are gonna get hurt in the ass even worse than you are already. I was gonna ask you how does it feel to be Carlos's little bitch's fanboy, but I don't think I need to ask after this post. It's gonna be a long journey for you. You bet on the wrong horse and your ass is gonna pay for it. And I'm enjoy enjoy every bit of it, so thanks for this message.


You know, there is this thing called REALITY, where a doper got banned and doesn't get to obtain any imaginary ATP points over it, as much as you would like to act like they robbed a cheater of something he was surely gonna get. You might not like it, but it is what it is. Undefeated when not banned for doping is not a thing.

I could care less about a rando Spanish who frequents the forum right around when his countryman wins lecturing me about reality lmfao. Least of all when it is so clear he is projecting hard.

"Bet on the wrong horse", "Carlos' little bitch's fanboy", "doper", yeah tell me again how WE are coping about this looooooool, sounds like a dude who puts too much stock into the achievements of pro sportsmen who don't even know you exist lol.

Let me rephrase this again for the non-idiots who are reading along this thread (AKA in other words, you can stop reading): 38 y.o nursing home applicant DJOKOVIC has played more of a season than Sinner. That is the entire point here. Sinner's 2025 season barely even qualifies as a full time season for World no.1 in his prime. Full stop. Whatever projections one wants to make out of that is purely up to them.

 

[AntiTardDefenseSystem]

He did admit his ban had affected his mindset as well (less motivation).

FTR: i) I think every hypothetical like this is ultimately silly for this reason, because you can always counter the "what if" with another "what if" ii) He said the ban affected him not due to motivation (hopefully not, because that would be pathetic frankly), but pressure. IIRC

Not performing because of "motivation" at 22 and World #3 (but effectively 2nd best player "Best Player In The World"™ according to his fans) vs definitely missing out on minimum 3000 points - which is a less silly hypothetical? That is all. There is no further agenda (eg. the ban was unfair, Alcaraz doesn't deserve #1, etc etc). I even mentioned that Alcaraz eventually becoming YE#1 might have been inevitable even if Sinner had played.

Anyways, we'll see in 52 weeks won't we. Carlos didn't exactly perform between February to May either, so he can nab points as well. And as for Sinner he can, sky (a 4000 point sky to be clear) is the limit between that stretch too. But before that, Jannik needs to focus on winning some key tournaments in the remaining stretch of the year, + AO.

 

[Muzzafan]

Sinner's 2025 season barely even qualifies as a full time season for World no.1 in his prime. Full stop. Whatever projections one wants to make out of that is purely up to them.

And he still reached all four slam finals, winning two (nearly three) and they want to tell us Sinner is finished. Lmao.

 

[AntiTardDefenseSystem]

And he still reached all four slam finals, winning two (nearly three) and they want to tell us Sinner is finished. Lmao.

Right, but my statement doesn't even concern that fact. It means exactly what it states. You cannot play seven tournaments in a season (82% done) and expect to be #1. It'd be like trying to go to the moon without an astronaut's suit.

 

[talicnitom]

both are big. how big we will see.

 

[ChrisDeku]

both are big. how big we will see.

I heard Alcaraz is around a ten incher

 

[FilipoSVK]

And he still reached all four slam finals, winning two (nearly three) and they want to tell us Sinner is finished. Lmao.

I don't understand some posters and people in general who are more or less almost 100% certain that Alca would have still reached the #1 even if Sinner didn't serve the ban and was allowed to play for the whole season.

Let's do a quick calculation in case Sinner continued to play with his AO and before AO form (2nd half of 2024), correct me if I'm wrong somewhere:

• Rotterdam: -500 pts, had he played, at least F very likely - 330 pts defended (-170 pts only, not -500 pts), +500 pts in case of W
• Doha: was supposed to play, at least F very likely - +330 pts, +500 pts in case of W
• IW: -650 pts, had he played, at least F very likely - 650 pts defended, +350 pts in case of W (1000 pts)
• Miami: -1000 pts, had he played, at least F very likely - 650 pts defended (-350 pts only, not -1000 pts), 1000 pts defended in case of W (0 pts dropped)
• MC: -400 pts for SF, had he played, at least SF very likely - 400 pts defended, +250 pts (650 pts) in case of F, +600 pts (1000 pts) in case of W
• Madrid: -200 pts for QF, had he played, at least SF very likely - +200 pts (400 pts), +450 pts (650 pts) in case of F, +800 pts (1000 pts) in case of W (without Alca playing, a very possible scenario)

Suppose all of the above happened (worse scenarios in most tournaments) and the results after the suspension would be more or less the same as they were, that would still be at least +2770 pts added to 10780 pts Sinner has currently (that would make it 13550 pts in total). Are we sure he wouldn't have reached at least SF in every tournament he was supposed to play had he not been banned? In my opinion, it must be considered how many tournaments he missed and how many pts he dropped due to the ban. Alca currently stands at 11540 pts, which is still 2000 pts less than the pts Sinner could have had without the suspension (and that's still a better scenario for him). Even if Sinner somehow performed worse than last year in most tournaments, I doubt he would have dropped enough pts for Alca to surpass him.

I'm not going to lie... honestly, the confidence of some people (mainly Alca fans) is hilarious and admirable at the same time. I don't blame them for it, though. He's the #1 right now, which he deserves fully for the great consistency he's shown during this season. The answer to whether this would have been the case or not had Sinner not been banned earlier this year will never be known. I think he could, but the chance for that would be much, much smaller.

 

[RUNECARAZ ERA]

I don't understand some posters and people in general who are more or less almost 100% certain that Alca would have still reached the #1 even if Sinner didn't serve the ban and was allowed to play for the whole season.

Let's do a quick calculation in case Sinner continued to play with his AO and before AO form (2nd half of 2024), correct me if I'm wrong somewhere:

• Rotterdam: -500 pts, had he played, at least F very likely - 330 pts defended (-170 pts only, not -500 pts), +500 pts in case of W
• Doha: was supposed to play, at least F very likely - +330 pts, +500 pts in case of W
• IW: -650 pts, had he played, at least F very likely - 650 pts defended, +350 pts in case of W (1000 pts)
• Miami: -1000 pts, had he played, at least F very likely - 650 pts defended (-350 pts only, not -1000 pts), 1000 pts defended in case of W (0 pts dropped)
• MC: -400 pts for SF, had he played, at least SF very likely - 400 pts defended, +250 pts (650 pts) in case of F, +600 pts (1000 pts) in case of W
• Madrid: -200 pts for QF, had he played, at least SF very likely - +200 pts (400 pts), +450 pts (650 pts) in case of F, +800 pts (1000 pts) in case of W (without Alca playing, a very possible scenario)

Suppose all of the above happened (worse scenarios in most tournaments) and the results after the suspension would be more or less the same as they were, that would still be at least +2770 pts added to 10780 pts Sinner has currently (that would make it 13550 pts in total). Are we sure he wouldn't have reached at least SF in every tournament he was supposed to play had he not been banned? In my opinion, it must be considered how many tournaments he missed and how many pts he dropped due to the ban. Alca currently stands at 11540 pts, which is still 2000 pts less than the pts Sinner could have had without the suspension (and that's still a better scenario for him). Even if Sinner somehow performed worse than last year in most tournaments, I doubt he would have dropped enough pts for Alca to surpass him.

I'm not going to lie... honestly, the confidence of some people (mainly Alca fans) is hilarious and admirable at the same time. I don't blame them for it, though. He's the #1 right now, which he deserves fully for the great consistency he's shown during this season. The answer to whether this would have been the case or not had Sinner not been banned earlier this year will never be known. I think he could, but the chance for that would be much, much smaller.

I think Sinner will skip Rotterdam because he's rather not play Alcaraz at 500 events

 

[Muzzafan]

I think Sinner will skip Rotterdam because he's rather not play Alcaraz at 500 events

It was Baldie that changed venues to Tokyo to avoid Sinner's next puke.