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Shanghai R4: [16] Daniil Medvedev d. Leaner Tien 7-6 6-7 6-4

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Meddy should have done this in two, but happy for him that he got the win. Coach so happy. Meddy so happy. Great scenes.
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#3 · (Edited)
Lovely words from Daniil about Leaner in on court interview

 
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What a surprise, I stopped watching the match after Tien levelled in the 2nd set, thought Daniil was done. His body language was all pointing that he doesn’t want to fight anymore.

It was very annoying to watch Medvedev, constant talking, negative emotions, not happy with anything, blaming the coach while missing volley and can’t produce a single dropshot. He really needs to hire a separate coach to work on volley/drop shot skills, it’s just a shame that this calibre of a player can’t hit a proper dropshot. He is not a spring chicken anymore, needs to add variety to his game, can’t chase every ball.

Also noted that the court and balls are dead slow, if I recall Shanghai was much faster courts before.
 
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Should have been done in 2 but this is a big win mentally.
 
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Medvedev Derangement Syndrome irl. Still complaining about Medvedev when he has been on EXEMPLARY behavior despite relentless harassment from the fat umpire mafia.
 
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@Saraya! It's Learner, not Leaner. Since you also wrote "Leaner" in one of your posts, I think it's not a typo.
 
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And finally Medvedev has scored his first win over the new Nadal! He served for the match in his previous teo attempts as well, but somehow couldn't get the job done. Defends his QF points from last year, but he'll surely be the cleat underdog against De Minor. Last year it would've been the other way around.
Lots to be proud of for the new Nadal as well. Making a final of an ATP 500 tournament and backing it by winning 3 consecutive matches in a Masters tournament the following week (as well as giving a tough time to his 4th round opponent) is pretty impressive for a teenager in his first complete year on tour. In comparison, another player from the same generation who's considered by some MTF experts as the next GOAT level player has done neither so far in his career.
 
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Making a final of an ATP 500 tournament and backing it by winning 3 consecutive matches in a Masters tournament the following week (as well as giving a tough time to his 4th round opponent) is pretty impressive for a teenager in his first complete year on tour. In comparison, another player from the same generation who's considered by some MTF experts as the next GOAT level player has done neither so far in his career.
Yes, Tien clearly has better results than the extremely overrated Fonseca, but they're still early in their development, and we'll see who has the upper hand in a few years.
 
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Medvedev gave a fair amount of credit to Tien, saying that the games of most players these days is founded on trying to hit as hard as possible behind a solid serve... The quintessential power baseline game of this era... But that Tien doesn't possess a big serve, but is still competitive with his good court craftiness. Indeed a relatively high IQ player. Changes up the balls constantly. Let's see if he can improve his serve. The height may be a limitation though, but we'll see.
 
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Excellent retrievers both of them, boring as fuck. Saw the highlights and even these were boring, nobody is waiting for 50 stoke rally between 2 players that do not have the power to hit winners. New Wilander-Vilas matchup. Medvedev is just a diva without the looks, can wait until this bum retires.
 
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Sad for Tien. Thought he was going to beat Med once again when he won the 2nd set. Still it was a great few weeks in China for Tien, whose ranking has risen by about 20 spots over the last three weeks. I think he has a good chance of finishing the season in the top 30.
 
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see more similarities between Tien’s game and Nishikori’s than between Tien’s and Nadal’s, except for their arm preference. Both are excellent movers who take the ball early and stay close to the baseline most of the time. They’re also good at redirecting pace. Like Nishikori, Tien has a calm personality and rarely loses focus or breaks down mentally. Both players seem to enjoy long matches and tend to win most of their deciding sets. They share a weakness, too — their serves are not particularly strong. However, Tien appears to have a more durable physique. I believe he’ll break into the top 10 within a year or so. Top 5? That’s harder to predict at this stage, as he still needs to improve his serve.
 
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see more similarities between Tien’s game and Nishikori’s than between Tien’s and Nadal’s, except for their arm preference. Both are excellent movers who take the ball early and stay close to the baseline most of the time. They’re also good at redirecting pace. Like Nishikori, Tien has a calm personality and rarely loses focus or breaks down mentally. Both players seem to enjoy long matches and tend to win most of their deciding sets. They share a weakness, too — their serves are not particularly strong. However, Tien appears to have a more durable physique. I believe he’ll break into the top 10 within a year or so. Top 5? That’s harder to predict at this stage, as he still needs to improve his serve.
Good post except I wouldn't call Nishikori's serve exactly a weakness. Sure, he was not an elite server, but could use it aggressively, particularly with a powerful "Serve + 1" shot. He was also good in using S|&|V at the right moment.
And why even mentioning comparison with Nadal?

Anyways, I thought Medvedev was really good. Even better than the old Medvedev in some aspects. His net play seems to me has drastically improved.
Also, the pickle juice that somebody discussed in the Sinner thread apparently works :D
 
#43 ·
When you trust in your player no matter what, this is what eventually happens. An excellent match by both, and Med proved he doesn't belong in the old iron yet. Defeating a player to whom you lost your two previous matches (only matches) on the third attempt is refreshing. Tien is the kind of player who can return many, many shots you send towards him, but even he should have limits in that. And Med exposed those limits in this match.

I trust in you, Daniil, so now lock in and win the whole thing!