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Quickest & slowest players between service points at US Open

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#1 ·
some stats from the Wall Street Journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704644404575481732927534288.html#articleTabs=article

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You've Been Served

We measured the time it took 54 players to take their first serve during the U.S. Open and came up with who were the fastest and slowest, on average.*
    --THE SLOWEST--                     
    MALE PLAYER     Avg. Serve Time  Avg. # of Bounces
1    Rafael Nadal         29s               15
2    Paul-Henri Mathieu   28s               16
3    Janko Tipsarevic     27s               7
4    Stanislas Wawrinka   27s               8
5    Teymuraz Gabashvili  25s               17
6    Mardy Fish           24s               9

--THE FASTEST--         
1    Gael Monfils         14s               9
2    James Blake          15s               6          Ana Ivanovic          16s    3
3    Michael Llodra       16s               6          Kim Clijsters         16s    12
4    Roger Federer        17s               10         M. Larcher De Brito   19s    11
5    Fernando Verdasco    17s               10         Caroline Wozniacki    21s    11
6    Sam Querrey          17s               4          Samantha Stosur       21s    13

Source: WSJ Research

*min. five breaks between point and next serve
Bound to turn into a Rafa bashing thread and the conditions here are making players slower than normal but some interesting figures nonetheless. Article is worth a read too.
 
#2 ·
When I watched Stan yesterday I was really annoyed by all the time wasted between points once again.
When did this "grab-the-towel-after-every-point&collect-5-balls-to-get-rid-of-them-before-choosing-the-actual-one"-attitude start?

Maybe my mind plays some tricks with me, but the time between points was much shorter in the early 90s, wasn't it?
 
#3 ·
Nadal :retard:
Where are the umpires? :rolleyes:

BTW how the hell do you take 27 seconds average to bounce the ball 7 times?? :confused:
 
#7 ·
Stats are always nice. Unfortunately the link for me does not seem to work. Just out of pure curiosity, did they mention the average number of times Djokovic bounces the ball?

I like Djoko but I'm surprised not to see him near the top of the first list. I'm also similarly surprised not to see Roddick near the top of the second list, although I'm guessing the sample size of matches that he played in the tournament was not sufficient for inclusion in this investigation?
 
#13 · (Edited)
Just out of pure curiosity, did they mention the average number of times Djokovic bounces the ball?
No they didn't. :)

I'm also similarly surprised not to see Roddick near the top of the second list, although I'm guessing the sample size of matches that he played in the tournament was not sufficient for inclusion in this investigation?
It says that "*min. five breaks between point and next serve" in the OP, which would imply that a sample of 5+ serves is sufficient for inclusion. But it does say in the article that they only measured the time for 54 players so he may not have been included.
 
#10 ·
The limit is 20s right? Surely there must be a reason why umpires are seemingly allowing players to go over the time so easily. Everything's become mostly about power and physicality as that's where the game is heading. They should probably just up the time to 30s and enforce point penalties or fault calls at the first instance of going over the time.
 
#11 ·
Would have expected to see Roddick on the fastest list and Nole on the slowest. Interesting stats, though!
 
#12 ·
Thanks for posting, when I saw the title I thought Nadal and Blake. Good to know Monfils is quicker ;)

Not a big surprise that Nadal and Mathieu played the longest 4-setter in Grand Slam history ;)
 
#26 ·
Agreed and is a rule breech that umpires need to address.
 
#24 ·
It doesn't surprise me at all to see Rafa topping this list. Even I think he uses maybe a bit too long time between service points. Though I know it's a part of his OCD/superstition thing, so it's kinda hard to change that now.
 
#36 ·
It doesn't surprise me at all to see Rafa topping this list. Even I think he uses maybe a bit too long time between service points. Though I know it's a part of his OCD/superstition thing, so it's kinda hard to change that now.
NO, it is NOT! Rafa has said that he used to be quick between points but Tio Toni adviced him to take his time and Rafa feels it helps his game.
 
#25 ·
just increase the time allowed to 50 seconds. the game is more physical these days and involve alot of running, so u need some time to catch ur breath.

im assuming these 30 second rules were made decades ago when serve and volley was the style and it was not physical and hardly any running with very quick points.

the game has changed over the years and decades and so should the rules.
 
#31 ·
Serve and volley is actually very demanding physically. It's not easy to sprint forward behind every serve and stretch for volleys.

My suggestion is that it's should be forbidden to use towels between points. Use the damn wrist bands or your shirt but don't ask the for the towel after every single point. I was watching some match this week in the morning before going to work and it suddenly hit me. A player (can't remember who) put his towel on top of some board and immediately a ball boy adjusted the towel so that it won't block the sponsor logo. It was obvious that it's now part of the training of the ball boys to make sure that the towel won't block sponsor's name. Well, this was off topic of course.
 
#29 ·
I, for one, am shocked to see Nadal lead the list of players with blatant disregard for the rules of tennis, and shame on umpires for not even attempting to control this behavior.
 
#34 ·
Djoko may bounce the ball like 30 times when he's nervous, but Rafa takes an eternity to serve... and when he puts that contorted face full of concentration it just cracks me up.
 
#39 ·
@ modetopia
Nadal take longer time when he is down or near a break point.
Look at the score in the picture above: score is 4-4 and is down 0-30 he could lose the set if he loses his serve.
When he is rolling, he canned some game in 1m-1m30sec...
Nadal is not the fastest by far but it depends where the game is up to.
Generally, it is around 15 sec.

Perception is different: Isner time lapse is very long but it doesn't show that much because he keeps walking slowly behind...and then serve fast when on position.
 
#41 ·
PHM on the second place in a joke. One second less than Nadal who takes an eternity just to do his ass picking routine? :confused:
PHM played some windy matches (against Fed especialy) where he waited for gusts of wind to calm down. And this is the freaking result. PHM is no timewaster.

And yes, I wouldn't mind 30 second time-limit. And I think players are quietly enforcing it into the game. ;)

These stats also show what a clown Monfils is. Just racing through his service games without much thought it seems...