That's it, you'll never be allowed to enter Serbia(hart of Scandinavia).

 

NP I'm sure you can get me in.

 

You do realize that you don't win a title in a SF?

 

Oh look a Nadtard in a Djokovic avatar. Registered Dec 14. Is that you,lolville? Spamming TW wasn't enough and now you're here to spread terror on MTF. :lol: You do realise Novak would've smashed Dull in the final like he smashed him in the 2 prev clay MS without dropping a set?

Some Nadtards already in ruins at the mere suggestion of Dull getting dismantled in a RG final. :haha:

 

Of course I prefer Wimbledon 2014... Even if Novak had beaten Roger in RG 2011, who's to say he would have beaten Rafa in the final?
Also, there is something so special about Wimbledon. For Novak to get the #1 ranking and the Wimbledon title at the same time is absolutely beautiful. It's already happened twice. Best feeling ever.

 

Of course I prefer Wimbledon 2014... Even if Novak had beaten Roger in RG 2011, who's to say he would have beaten Rafa in the final?

A non-dulltard I suppose. More importantly a non-Fed hater which basically eliminates you.

Also, there is something so special about Wimbledon. For Novak to get the #1 ranking and the Wimbledon title at the same time is absolutely beautiful. It's already happened twice. Best feeling ever.

True.

Meanwhile in other news, Djokovic still without a RG with no headway/indication that he's gonna win it so that career slam continues to elude him like trying to hold quicksilver.

 

Monfed man, you're displaying low IQ here with this question.

 

Please forgive me, looks like my thread went right over your head man. I should've dumbed it down a wee bit. :lol:

 

Wiining RG in 2011 also means the grand slam so definitely that year I think he would of beaten Rafa.

 

Wiining RG in 2011 also means the grand slam so definitely that year I think he would of beaten Rafa.

First logical reply in this thread.Bravo.Green rep coming your way,good sir.

 

MTF is on life support...

 

2 weeks...

 

Wimby 14, getting 2 titles at the All England club is very important, as it is still the Holy Grail of tennis imo.
He took his chances this year, and what a sweet victory it was.
Plus - he is still in the hunt at RG to win 1 (or 2!).

 

Ok then, answer this - If Djokovic never wins RG, what would you pick?

 

I'm a Nole fan. I would take that 11 RG semi. I think too he would have beaten Nadal.

But to be honest, it was not Nole's fault for a change (oh man did he blew some slam's in the last 3 years). Federer was just too good. There was 4-5 cruicial points on that match, all of them went to Roger. I believe only one of those lost and Nole wins. Even without that ace on the one and only match point... Nole was a terminator that year.

And to be honest I think Nole is better on clay then on grass. But the Dominator on grass is one generation older. So Nole might have 3 wimbledon's and no Roland Garros when he retires. Would be strange...

 

I'm a Nole fan. I would take that 11 RG semi. I think too he would have beaten Nadal.

But to be honest, it was not Nole's fault for a change (oh man did he blew some slam's in the last 3 years). Federer was just too good. There was 4-5 cruicial points on that match, all of them went to Roger. I believe only one of those lost and Nole wins. Even without that ace on the one and only match point... Nole was a terminator that year.

And to be honest I think Nole is better on clay then on grass. But the Dominator on grass is one generation older. So Nole might have 3 wimbledon's and no Roland Garros when he retires. Would be strange...

Yup.

 

Yeah as a big fan of both Roger and Djokovic, I would definitely trade W14 for a final spot in RG'11. When Fed beat Novak in that RG'11 SF, it's one of the first times I was really upset with a Roger victory. Novak had all the momentum and form and good guy Roger robbed his winning streak and gave... it... all... away. Quite sick, because we all know what would have happened in the final. Nadull's clay form wasn't even great in 2011, and Roger the perfect match-up choked the first and should have taken it to 5.

Imagine if Novak did beat Wafa in RG'11. How would that change the future? CYGS? And maybe Wafa wouldn't win RG in 2012/2013/2014 because of the past pains and a failed comeback. Too bad it didn't happen, but at least it showed that Roger could compete with 2011 Novak in the biggest stages (RG & USO), whereas certain players were humiliated 7-0.

 

LOL, you as well? Then again, that would mean 18 slams for Federer, so you're making the right call there based on your interest.

 

He wouldn't have beaten Rafa in RG. Never.
They are the same league.

 

Clearly RG 2011, after that he would've won easily even in '13 + this year.
That win in '11 would have been MIND-CRASHING for Nadal.

 

:haha: He has a guaranteed 7th slam and second Wimbledon title, beating the GOAT in a thrilling encounter and you would rather him chuck that away for to 40% chance of beating Nadal in a French Open final?

Are you SHITTING ME?

#MuppetThoughtProcess #MuppetryOfTheHighestCaliber

 

You're asking Novak Djokovic fans if they would rather he beat the GOAT on clay to go on and beat Ferrer in the final and complete his career slam, placing him amongst the all time greats............ over winning his second Wimbledon? ]

It's just a stupid question really mate.

The thing is, you knew it was a stupid question, because he is basically playing 'bye' in the final. No offence to Ferrer, but it's just reality.

 

He was asking about the 2011 SF between Nole and Roger. Ferrer played the final last year.

 

OP assumed in 2011 Novak would have beaten Nadal on any surface. Also, swapping 2014 Wimby with 2011 semi with Federer means Federer would end up with 18 slams. So the overall end results would be: first, Fed ends up with 18 slams, second, Nadal ends up with 13 slams since Djoko beating Rafa in 2011 RG final was the most fundamental part of OP's assumption, and lastly, Djokovic would have absolutely crushed Nadal's mind, since RG was Nadal's last defense against Djoko, which would actually benefit Fedtards like monofed. So it would have been one stone three birds for monofed.

 

^He's assuming Djokovic beating Rafa at Rome and Madrid on the clay is even comparable to beating him in Paris over a best of 5.

Which is silly.

 

If it was any other slam final maybe I'd make the trade, but beating Federer at the Wimbledon final is just too good to pass up. Especially since there is no guarantee that Novak would have beaten Nadal at RG (though it does seem likely). I'll have to stick with the W 2014 win.

 

Cmon ClutchonandFail you're just upset that I beat you in ACC. And I did it in record time, Let it go. You're just upset that you've met your match on MTF. :superlol:

As far as "following the herd" statement. LOL anyone with half a brain and a little tennis knowledge can see Nadal was a sitting duck in the RG final ripe for the taking. The fact that most people think that Nole would've beaten Nadal in the final confirms that.

Looks like my arguments have totally bent you out of shape, not bad for a keyboard warrior. :superlol:

 

MonFed is inarticulate and failed when proposing this ludicrous question.

For clarity everybody. This guy is asking whether Nole fans would trade a Wimbledon trophy for a shot at beating a player at RG, who has only lost there one time in his entire 10 year career thus far.

Monfed's crap arguments are the balls are lighter and Isner managed to take him to 5 sets in one random year at the first round stage. Ignoring the fact Isner is the greatest server ever to walk this planet and clay ACTUALLY suits his game, due to the severe KICK and TRAJECTORY he serve produces. Due to the way he has ACHORS of time to hit his forehand and finish one two punches easily after putting down a decent serve.

 

ClutchonAndFail carpet bombing this thread after I've exposed his weak arguments is quite amusing. Please stop COAF, I've heard your arguments and I strongly disagree. Move along now.

 

Female Player Camel Toes 12-13-2014 07:39 PM monfed shut that geek up real good

Get back to kissing my back side, son.

We all know you only made this thread because your lemming thoughts were triggered from watching the highlights I posted on Djokovic vs Nadal in Rome 11. :lol:

http://gyazo.com/f08c3f30ef58ec0be5237cee85e8fef9

Your statements are ludicrous and we all know why you were banned on tennis warehouse now.

You're essentially stating Djokovic would be more favourite against Nadal in the final of Roland Garros. :lol: Simply because he scraped by him in two masters events. Howmany people have beaten Rafa over a best of 5? Any idea? Won't take long to work this one out kiddo. So now because he's favourite in 2011, let's trade a Wimbledon title and see him give it his best effort in beating Nadal over a best of 5 on a Philip Chatreier court he makes luv to.

You also said John Isner was crap on clay, another ignorant remark, when the clay allows him time to strike his forehand, as well as the ability to drag push opponents out of court with his kick serve.

lool Being a pseudo tennis intellectual that can't think beyond results and achievements is one thing, but asking people if they would trade a Wimbledon crown for a chance to beat Nadal in the final of RG (Regardless of the form form shown) IS PROBABLY THE DUMBEST THING anybody could think of.

 

There's no question Djokovic's most REALISTIC shot and chance of beating Nadal at the French was back in 2011, where he had ridiculous momentum and rhythm going into the tournament, HOWEVER, do not even think of trying to say he would have been FAVOURITE going into the that BEST OF 5 SET FINAL on the Philip Chatrier court. That is not only stupid, it's ignorant. Ofcourse I watched the Rome and Madrid finals back in 11, I only recently posted the highlights to those matches and I'm sure it was this tool, Monfed who watched it.

To sum it up; you want to SACRIFICE a Wimbledon crown, for an OPPORTUNITY to beat Nadal over a best of 5 at the French, where Nadal has lost once. :lol: It's the dumbest GAMBLE I have ever heard.

 

RG 11 Final wasn't a gamble you utter tard. It was a lock for Novak. Please go away now, your spamming is getting annoying. Novak's level was a whole league above Nadal at that point, don't compare it with his 2012/13/14 level. That's where your argument fails big time.

ACC is over, you lost fair and square. Deal bruh.

 

Well first, as you act as if you are interested in us....

As you may know a lot of Djokotards are Serbians and Orthodoxes so we won't be celebrating before our Bozic (7/01/2015 : Orthodox Christmas) from our calendar as we are not following Popists one and stay clutched to Julius Caesar calendar as far as Religion matters.

Then what is done is done, Wimbledon 2014 was a real gift as Nole is not a natural grass player and Grigor and Roger were clear favourites at that time.
Probably because of an outsider, Nole found the guts to pick it, helped by the big pressure on Fed.

RG 2011 is quite different, Roger was really offensive, capitalising on Nole having lost his pace with Fognini forfeiting and 4 days off.
Then with 2 sets down, match was done with dawn and lenses.

In both case (2011 and 2014), the thing is a little bit stolen as the favourite and the best player at that moment lost.

Then if Noletards has to regret about Career Grand Slam, 2013 SF in the decider when Nole lost his self control, and moreover 2014 when he began complaining instead of focusing when up 1 set and a break, are far more felt as lost opportunities.

But we all know his game can only be efficient vs Rafa on clay if 100% fit and focused.

And even in that case, I can't even imagine what could be french crowd reaction on a MP against Rafa because evrything is orchestrated here to melt in a Legend French Open and Rafa.

Last and not least, I must admit I am VERY happy Roger found his offensive spirit back under Stefan coaching, because the couple of oppositions we had had in 2014 were by far the best tennis matches in the last 3 years.

 

What ClutchonandFail utterly fails to understand are three things essentially -

1) Novak was at his highest clay form in 2011, Nadal was possibly in his lowest since winning RG in 2005. Nadal had simply no answers to Novak on clay that year but as per usual, Nadal lucked out BIG TIME.

2) Novak was DEEP in Nadal's psyche, so basically there was no chance of Novak choking. So that's another avenue which Nadal usually uses to win is out. Novak knew deep down that he'd beat Nadal, such was the level of the ownage. Rewatch the Rome final, Nadal was so helpless that he was moonballing from his BH wing too but all those moonballs got smashed.

3) Lighter balls that would allow him to play freely and would also weaken Nadal's defense.

 

MuppetDeadInTheHead - Listen mate you're probably the most ridiculous poster I have ever come across. You have made a sensationalistic thread to get views and posts. You deep down know anybody with a rational mind-set/frame would be laughing at your proposal of an offer.

1) I KNOW Novak WAS! I KNOW! I watched the tennis, I was in awe of the tennis and I rate it as high as any of the season's Federer had between 2004 and 2007, however, what you fail to realise is there is a significant PSYCHOLOGICAL difference between beating a Rafael Nadal in a best of three set match and a Rafael Nadal in a best of five set match. Then you have to consider the fact that the courts at the masters events he beat Nadal in that year were NARROW in depth and the Philip Chatrier court is the WIDEST tennis court on the professional tour. Therefore Djokovic would struggle to hit through Nadal. As well as this you have the fairly likely probability Nadal would manage to find a way to raise his game for Roland Garros, AS HE ALWAYS DOES.

2) The fact you're calling them moon-balls and not heavy high net-clearance topspin forehands exposes you for the pseudo-tennis intellectual you are. You are product of tards.

3) Lighter balls have been the way for many, many years now at Roland Garros. It really isn't as much of a factor as you believe.

PS: Nadal was not in or at his lowest in terms of the QUALITY of tennis he was bloody well producing on a claycourt in 2011, Djokovic was just on fire. The lowest point on clay for Nadal was this season that's just gone by, where and when he lost to Ferrer, almost (And should have) lost to Nishikori and did lose to Almagro. You exaggerate so much shit and almost dismiss it as being a piece of cake in beating Nadal on clay for Nole. That's either because you've never played the game, or you're a professional full time troll. I imagine it's a blended recipe of both. Djokovic was RED-LINING HIS GAME IN ROME, RED-LINING HIS GAME IN MADRID, what is the probability he could red-line his game for 3 sets on a more difficult court and atmosphere to beat Nadal? You cannot be anymore confident that he would haven beaten Nadal back in 2011, than he wouldn't.

 

Let's just say, he better win Paris eventually. Each year he misses the mark, it becomes that much tougher a feat mentally and physically.

Like he said though, he'll try "encore et encore et encore..."

 

Regarding 2011, it's hard to say how the final would played out had Djokovic taken Fed to a 5th and eventually won that SF on a second day. He was so tight and flat for the first two sets - who is to say he wouldn't have come out that way to start the final? He started the 2012 final rather tight. But by losing his '11 streak at the French, it took some pressure off Nole going into Wimbledon. Most "experts" considered Rafa the favorite going into that Wimbledon final, and Djokovic was able to annihilate him to secure his first Wimbledon trophy, first Slam win outside of Oz, and first Slam win over Nadal...which became his first of 3 in a row in finals.

 

Had Novak beaten Federer in 5 sets, it would've improved his mental strength even more because Novak feared Fed at that point, not Nadal. Novak's confidence would be skyhigh after beating his most difficult opponent.

Novak was flat because he was robbed of his rhythm with Fognini's W/O and Fed's redlining.

RG 11 SF, Nadal fans were cheering for Federer to win. LMAO people dont forget. :lol:

 

Thats something we will never know. If Nole had won over Federer in that SF.

Some might say he would of won Rafa, maybe. Hes had alot of chances after that and we all know what happened after.

Oh he was in a winning streak. True, but he was also tired and with the presiure of the winning streak.

To say Rafa was in bad clay form in 11 is false. He won MC, reached Madrid and Rome finals. Thing is Nole was also tired of clay. No man aside from Rafa has even won Madrid and Rome in last decade.

Who knos maybe he would of found a new way to chooke like last 2 times.


As for Nole winning RG11 putting a stop to Rafas dominance, Its been tried before and its still on.

 

Man Nadaltards are such egomaniacs, they can't accept that Nadal would've gotten dismantled in the RG 11 Final because it threatens their false god's status. Geez it doesn't make you small to admit that because pretty much everyone with an iota of tennis knowledge and who followed the Djokodal rivalry in 2011 can see that. :lol: