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Who has a better 2025 season, Fonseca or Tien?

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#1 · (Edited)
At the beginning of the year I thought this would be never a question, between these two teenagers Fonseca was rated much higher and he had also came out stronger from the nextgen finals last year.

But now surprisingly they are having a pretty comparable season:

Fonseca has won more title (ATP250 Buenos Aires), has better overall W/L ratio. He also got past the first round in all 4 slams and won 6 slam matches in total (Tien won 4 matches). Fonseca also won their encounter this year.

Meanwhile, Tien has achieved higher ranking (#36 vs #43) and deeper runs in bigger tournaments (R4 at AO, R4 Canadian masters + an ATP 500 final). Both his slam R1 exits are by high-profile players (Zverev at FO, Djokovic at USO), so there's a bit bad luck compared with Fonseca.

Note that Tien got 5 top-10 wins this year, only behind Alcaraz and Sinner, compared with Fonseca's only 1 top-10 win against Rublev (though admittedly most of his opponents did not play top-10 worthy tennis). On the other hand, Fonseca seems to be more consistent at beating average ranked players.

Tien's good results concentrated on hard courts, and he has done very little outside that. Fonseca was more even across different surfaces.

Overall it's quite close, but for me, Tien is having a better season by a margin, unless Fonseca could do something special in the indoor season.
 
#7 · (Edited)
I guess we'll see when the ATP newcomer of the year reward is handed out, currently Tien has a bit of an edge similar to the edge Mensik had over Shang last year, more top 10 wins and better ATP 500, 1000 performances outweighs a 250 title.
 
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#8 ·
Fonseca has a much higher ceiling and leads their H2H, but Tien is maximizing his game early. Still needs to work on the serve. So many Top 10 wins in one year is hard to ignore, but so are Slam results.
 
#14 ·
The one with more points at the end of the season. 🤷‍♂️

Fonseca has a much higher ceiling tho. And also Tien is almost his pigeon already.
They only played one real match against each other which went into a deciding set. How is the new Nadal the overrated Brazilian's pigeon after one real match lol?
 
#18 ·
Btw, Fonseca surely leads in the amount of burgers eaten over the last year, thus it's never a question who's been a better player so far.
 
#20 ·
If you take away Beijing this wouldn't even have been a question. I actually thought Tien's season was quite disappointing after that great start.
 
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Tien was not good after AO all the way to the hard court swing. His run in Beijing was partly a bit of luck with injured/off form opponents. I just don't see the hype on him, he has good rally tolerance, but no big weapons.
You have to also take in account that Tien has played alot more tournaments than Fonseca; totally different approaches this year. Fonseca is currently the better player regardless of ranking, and I feel that gap will only grow in the future.

There is a reason why Joao gets all the hype from media and older players; wheter some MTF members like it or not, Fonseca has that "it" factor about him and he has a weapon most of the tour don't and never will (his forehand).