Absolute nonsense.

 

That is the kneejerk reaction. But consider a few factors. Vince played and beat some no. 1s. Vince was a top 15 player and an ATP champion (Scottsdale). He has a good tennis eye and he saw some things in Young that you, I or some others could not see. Young should have worked with Vince for a trial basis.

 

Is that the same Spadea that held a record of consecutive first round loses?

Until it was broken by ... Young?

Seems legit!

 

You have to respect those who break your records, right? This is perhaps a bit much. Since the Don is too young (!) to have done it before Federer became #1 he'd either have to outcompete him, Nadal, Djokovic or Murray (with a smaller window for the latter). Can't see either happening.

Rios wouldn't have done it post 2004 either.

 

"Rios was not spectacular, Vince said, and that’s why he didn’t win any slams, but you don’t have to be spectacular to win slams."
Not in terms of results, but Rios was one of the most spectacular players ever and had the best-looking strokes on tour along with Agassi and Korda.

 

Thanks, i had a good laugh.

Funniest thing is i feel Donald "the ever" Young maxxed himself out. Someone like Mardy Fish had far more talent.

 

Put down the crack pipe, Vince...

 

Whar nonsense.

Guy was on Ok player but had no gifts. Only 183cm as well.

Could've been a left handed Youzny, that's it.

 

183 cm shouldn't be a big problem. Federer and Nadal are both 185, and they did OK. Unless you think 185 is the absolute lowest you can be and still have success?

 

Calling him more talented than Rios is pushing it a bit, but the general sentiment isn't THAT outrageous. He was a true teen prodigy, #1 in juniors and cracked the top 100 at 18. The Freddy Adu of tennis. I think what hurt him the most was being coached by his idiot parents his entire career, they wrecked all his potential. A different coach could have made all the difference. At some point you have to show balls and become your own man, he failed himself most of all

 

Young did not have 1/10th of the hands and talent of Rios.

You can't teach that.

Very basic player.

 

Both were world no.1 juniors but Rios had better coaching influences from junior to early ATP years - Stefanki, Gildemeister, Lundgren. All top notch coaches and former pro players.

Young had his mom and dad who have zero pro tennis experience. Imagine if DY had the benefit of three top notch pro coaches like Stefanki, Lundgren and Hans Gildemeister in his developmental years. Young family screwed up big time.

 

Young may be one of the biggest underachievers in modern history. It seems his parents wanted all the glory and credit for DY's pro success which never quite came. And it should have. They created a fantastic base foundation to build on but they never let him graduate to better more experienced coaches.

 

Young may be one of the biggest underachievers in modern history. It seems his parents wanted all the glory and credit for DY's pro success which never quite came. And it should have. They created a fantastic base foundation to build on but they never let him graduate to better more experienced coaches.

Yeah, nope.

Just because someone achieves big success at a young age (no pun intended) it does not necesarily mean that they have underachieved. It could rather mean that he reached or came close to his hitting peak level very early. With the type of game and relative lack of weapons Young had compared to many other players, I would say that Young just about achieved about all he could in terms of his CH ranking.

That said, I do think that better and higher level coaching probably could've allowed him to stay closer to his CH ranking of 38 for a longer and more sustained period of time, but because of what I mentioned about the limitations in his game I do not believe that anyone could've gotten him to #10 in the world at any point, nevermind #1. Think the best he realistically could've done with better coaches is just outside the top 20 for a brief period of time. That's about it.

 

unless you've played at the level of these players who make these comments, you really can't say much. What we as spectators of professionals see is far different than what comes at you on court. It may look like a player is useless to you, but his technic, balls, mechanics are only experienced when you're on court with him/her. So don't dismiss people just because you don't comprehend their perspective. I think it's an interesting take. And i think with every generation of new players, the skills are even more improved. Maybe Young should give him a call, it's not to late. After all men reach their prime later than women, who knows maybe Rudeski can take him to that next level, the way Thiem went to the next level with his coach.

 

It’s easy to claim things that are completely unverifiable. In fact same thing can be said of any journeyman and there’s no way to prove it wrong.

It may be a desperate attempt to get a job.

 

Maybe on the shy, introverted side, like Rios, Spadea, others. Never forget the time Nadal invited him to train together in Mallorca and young Young declined the invite.

 

Young was a great junior but there are many other examples of great juniors not making it big on ATP circuit for whatever reason. Spadea's statement is a bit weird, why does he think he would make him more successful than Donald's parents? He was always a bit of a weird persona - he coaching anyone possibly wouldn't change anything. I can also say, he could easily turn Young just into another part time rapper or whatever Spadea was known for on the internet back then.

 

Oh please... Spadea couldn't have sucked my ass.

 

As if coaching was the only thing Young needed to get to #1. Please.

 

I agree to the extent that a coaching change would perhaps have given Young a different look. But his attitude has been a major issue and I've never seen him truly adapt his game to be successful across the board.

Overall you can only say what if but no more.