[Forehander]

:lol: when I first saw it on the video, especially closeup side view, I thought he was wearing pantyhose
as ridiculous as it may appear on a tennis player, it actually suits him (and hopefully does as intended too )

Lol I remember when I first saw them in basketball I use to think they looked silly too, they definitely catch the eyes when males wear them. But over the years I've grown accustomed to them and have a couple myself specifically used for jogging. I highly recommend them as it solved some of my moderate shin splint issues.

 

[Forehander]

Zverev's volleys are some of the worst I've seen for a top 10 player. Not a surprise, since his current coach is Juan Carlos Ferrero, who was a horrendous volleyer himself.

 

[darcis_forehand]

pantyhose

My most favourite article of clothing ever.

 

[Monsi]

Zverev's volleys are some of the worst I've seen for a top 10 player. Not a surprise, since his current coach is Juan Carlos Ferrero, who was a horrendous volleyer himself.

His second coach, who has been his main coach since the day he was born until this year, is his father, who also coaches his brother - a great volleyer. That's a real mystery, to be honest.

 

[Zverevdadiii]

Zverev's volleys are some of the worst I've seen for a top 10 player. Not a surprise, since his current coach is Juan Carlos Ferrero, who was a horrendous volleyer himself.

It has nothing to do with Ferrero, lol. He was always bad at it.

 

[MWW]

His second coach, who has been his main coach since the day he was born until this year, is his father, who also coaches his brother - a great volleyer. That's a real mystery, to be honest.

this father pushed Zverev Snr so much but he didn't have stern results till recently and contemplated quitting tennis. With Zverev Jnr he tried a different approach, much more solid baseliner, but pffff all at net.

 

[Monsi]

this father pushed Zverev Snr so much but he didn't have stern results till recently and contemplated quitting tennis. With Zverev Jnr he tried a different approach, much more solid baseliner, but pffff all at net.

My point is Alex Zverev Sr. knows what he's doing. He was a good player and he is a good coach, obviously. It's kind of a flaw you can't ignore even if you really really want to. I doubt he said "Here son, go play the way you like, you have nothing to improve!" And what is the most surprising, is that Sascha plays a lot of doubles with his brother (and others, but mostly Mischa). And still nothing...

 

[MWW]

My point is Alex Zverev Sr. knows what he's doing. He was a good player and he is a good coach, obviously. It's kind of a flaw you can't ignore even if you really really want to. I doubt he said "Here son, go play the way you like, you have nothing to improve!" And what is the most surprising, is that Sascha plays a lot of doubles with his brother (and others, but mostly Mischa). And still nothing...

The saying goes, sometimes that the apple falls quite far from the tree :scratch:
That's the way with brothers sometimes. For all extents and purposes they are supposed to be matching but they cannot be more different individuals. After all did not God create Zverev Jnr with larger hands and feet while Mischa was given small hands and feet?

 

[Singularity]

SABR failed Federer spectacularly at the USO. Nole was surprised by it at Cincy, but once he got used to it, it became irrelevant.

That's why I don't think Kyrgios should "SABR". It's a shot that fails a lot.

The entire point is to use it as a surprise shot. It's like a drop shot fake-out or an underhand first serve or hitting a drop shot return. Anyway even at the USO against Djokovic, Federer won 50% of the points with it, which is higher than the 39% he was averaging on return.

 

[Roxitova]

Failed against Rafa today.

I don't care whether Fed does it or Nick I think it's mainly a ridiculous shot meant to humilliate your opponent. Novak shoved it back down Fed's throat multiple times.

Nick looked desperate and ridiculous doing it against Nadal.

 

[-Dominator-]

Very smart tactical approach when you are getting owned from the baseline by a player 5 cm taller.

 

[Forehander]

His second coach, who has been his main coach since the day he was born until this year, is his father, who also coaches his brother - a great volleyer. That's a real mystery, to be honest.

Lol oh yea I forgot to take into account his brother is a serve and volleyer, which makes it more the mind blowing They are like polar opposites: Older brother is a masculine rough looking guy with a stronger build, but is a rather soft hitter with a S&V game; whereas the younger brother is tall lanky pretty boy with a powerful baseline game and zero volley skills.

 

[Forehander]

It has nothing to do with Ferrero, lol. He was always bad at it.

True that.

 

[Sombrerero loco]

epic

 

[pepita1964]

Nick is probably the only guy who has tried trick shots against the maestro without Federer outdoing him.
I remember Tomic tried some stuff against Roger when Tomic used to be hyped and was replied in kind.

I do rate his talent highly. If he gets his head screwed onto his neck, this guy is both an entertainer and a real threat to anyone.
He isn't the guy who would choke away a match, he might be too casual or lose his head like he did against Stanimal. That was unnecessary and I hope he apologizes to Stan for it. Maybe Nick needs a past legend as a coach to make him listen. He still has lot of scope of improvement in the groundstrokes department.

Yeah it was ugly but it was true.

 

[ProdigyEng]

Kyrgios did the SABR first.

 

[Htom Sirveaux]

Failed against Rafa today.

I don't care whether Fed does it or Nick I think it's mainly a ridiculous shot meant to humilliate your opponent. Novak shoved it back down Fed's throat multiple times.

Nick looked desperate and ridiculous doing it against Nadal.

He did it to tank the point after one of his many tirades at Lahyani. :lol:

 

[SamprasHewittLOL]

Failed against Rafa today.

I don't care whether Fed does it or Nick I think it's mainly a ridiculous shot meant to humilliate your opponent. Novak shoved it back down Fed's throat multiple times.

Nick looked desperate and ridiculous doing it against Nadal.

No, he didn't. You don't even know the difference between a SABR and a chip-and-charge. Like most Federer haters, you're not a real tennis fan and don't understand tennis. You criticize real tennis and think the sport is meant to be baseline grindfests.

 

[Htom Sirveaux]

No, he didn't. You don't even know the difference between a SABR and a chip-and-charge. Like most Federer haters, you're not a real tennis fan and don't understand tennis. You criticize real tennis and think the sport is meant to be baseline grindfests.

Not sure what point you're referring to but with Nadal serving at *2-2 40-0 in the first, Kyrgios rushed in during a first serve and attempted a half volley that sailed long. It was rather pathetic.

 

[SamprasHewittLOL]

Not sure what point you're referring to but with Nadal serving at *2-2 40-0 in the first, Kyrgios rushed in during a first serve and attempted a half volley that sailed long. It was rather pathetic.

I'm referring to your false claim that "Novak shoved it back down Federer's throat multiple times." The clueless fans who say this - like you - are referring to the two consecutive times where Djokovic lobbed Federer after returns in the 2015 USO final, however on one of those two points, Federer chipped and charged, it wasn't even a SABR. Federer was also successful with all the other SABRs he attempted in that match. Had he converted his break points, he would have probably won.