I mean I’d say it’s good message overall. Talent is important, but it can only take you so far in really anything tbh

 

I agree with the message ofc, good one

 

There is hours and hours of effort and repetition hidden in "effortless" tennis.

It's just that that effort was conducted in a free environment and playful way — out on the streets and backyards.

Meaning you can't produce effortless tennis in a tennis factory under a military-like control of a drill instructor.

 

For sure. Federer made the sport look easy but no doubt he trained hard to get to that point.

 

Raw talent will only take you so far in any professional sport.

Just look at someone like Ravel Morrison at Manchester United. Ferguson said he was the most naturally gifted footballer he'd ever worked with, but his career went nowhere because he didn't have the minerals between the ears, he was ill-disciplined, and didn't work as hard as he could have.

Had the whole world at his feet as a teenager and at 31, he's spent the last decade bouncing around from average club to average club, and was last spotted in the MLS being left out of the DC United squad.

 

A variation of “Without work, talent is just a dirty habit”


The dream is the talent.
Everything else is just sweat and discipline.

 

Thought it was well-known that Fed worked hard to make his game LOOK effortless? Am sure Florentine has posted about this, maybe more than once.

Edit: LOL, in this thread, even.

Absolutely. According to same resident Fedfans that shall not be named, someone like Federer is all about talent and 'effortless' tennis, while someone like Djokovic or Nadal is all about grinding and outworking/outlasting opponents with little to no talent. Though I imagine they will pretend Federer never said any of this.

'Scuse me, I think you'll find the current vernacular around here is "outpushing" and "outenduransing."

 

Thought it was well-known that Fed worked hard to make his game LOOK effortless? Am sure Florentine has posted about this, maybe more than once.

Just a little bit. 😌

 

Talent/hard work is a false dichotomy.

 

Talent and hard work go hand in hand. Many people wrongly think that you can make up for your lack of talent by working hard or you can let your talent shine and not put in the effort. It doesn’t work like that. You need both to be able to compete at the very highest level and Federer had natural talent in abundance, as well as an incredible work ethic.

 

Talent without working hard is nothing. I am sure insanely talented people like Messi, Federer worked their ass off inside and outside the pitch/court.

People have unrealistic view about Federer, because his game did look effortless at times. Also seeing his practices, usually at slower pace probably did not help either. Normally he's real casual during open practices. But behind closed doors he worked extremely hard to get where he was.

 

People have unrealistic view about Federer, because his game did look effortless at times. Also seeing his practices, usually at slower pace probably did not help either. Normally he's real casual during open practices. But behind closed doors he worked extremely hard to get where he was.

Of course, and Federer himself greedily played on this reputation, in front of the media and crowd stunned by this indecent ease.

In his fun post-match interviews with Courier.

- "How many hours of work to obtain this level?"

Maestro scratching his nose evasively, giving the beginnings of a mischievous small smile and already savoring his response..

- "No, it is all talent. I don't work,” 😅

 

They all worked very hard, you don't win 8+ slams, never mind 20+, without working very hard.
But at the end of the day, it's one thing working hard off the court, and a different one working hard on the court, and Djokodal worked the hardest on the court the way they outpushed and outlasted anyone, that's the key of success in modern tennis.

 

Most people know this. Success is a combination of talent/abilities, luck and effort.

I know people love giving a player like Kyrgios a hard time, talking about how he wasted away his talent and so on but the guy pretty much gave up his whole childhood to get to where he was. This applies to all tennis players, of course, and athletes in general of any sport, unless it's some random unpopular sport that does not have much worldwide competition.

The difference between someone like Federer and say Safin for instance... is pretty much the amount of effort/training they put in to keep going, to keep winning.

 

The GOAT of humility and self-effacement :worship :worship :worship

But we know the truth Fed, there is only one Supreme Talent :bow