Well neither of them are named Ken Rosewall, so no.

I do suspect Nadal is done (still can't count him out of RG 24), but Djokovic is still making the final of like every slam so he should at least occasionally win as long as he keeps doing that.

 

So Novak has to win only one more for the rest of his career to have it? Sounds pretty safe to say yes.

 

Just bored and going through some stats. Noticed that there has been very little slam success post 36 years of age.

Of course records are made to be broken and I wouldn't put it past ether Djokovic or even Nadal at the FO to win another one but I get the feeling the end is closer then a lot of people think even for Djokovic.

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What do you think? will the record stay the same or will Djokovic and/or Nadal break this?

If we go by this Nadal won't win anymore and Djokovic has maybe 4 more chances to win one.

... Nadal,if his recovery goes well will have a 'punchers chance' to break that at the 2024 French Open where he'll be 38.

Djokovic will need a 2024 US OPEN triumph at the earliest.... still possible,but will be interesting to see how much he's declined since then and the competition ahead of him.

but this list is only a 'piece of the puzzle' as our Johnny Groove is soon about to swoop in and piss on your parade by throwing Arthur Gore at you (41 years).... and that'll be that... LOL!

 

In 1908, Arthur Gore won Wimbledon age 40y6m, but he only won 6 matches to do it

Norman Brookes, the 1907 champion, did not defend his title in the challenge round

So Gore essentially got a W/O in the final

He did win 6-4 in the 5th in the all-comers final vs Roper-Barrett, who would coach the British DC team for a bit

Following year he defended his title in the challenge round at age 41y6m, but again he only had to play 1 match

His most impressive run imo was in 1912 when he won 6 matches and lost in the final to Tony Wilding

That final featured a 15y10m age gap between finalists (sound familiar?), 28y8m Wilding and 44y6m Gore

Also made the QF in 1914 at age 46y6m by the way, Federer was 39y11m in 2021 W

But if we are talking oldest slam champ with 7 matches was Tilden in 1930 Wimbledon, age 37y5m, which is the most relevant historic comparison

 

Just bored and going through some stats. Noticed that there has been very little slam success post 36 years of age.

Of course records are made to be broken and I wouldn't put it past ether Djokovic or even Nadal at the FO to win another one but I get the feeling the end is closer then a lot of people think even for Djokovic.

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What do you think? will the record stay the same or will Djokovic and/or Nadal break this?

If we go by this Nadal won't win anymore and Djokovic has maybe 4 more chances to win one.

Djokovic is done. Nadal has one FO left in him as thats his aim next season. Alcaraz though now will dominate tennis. I think he will be GOAT by 2025 as could see him win the Golden Slam next season. Thats the holy grail in tennis.

 

hi dataworf.

 

Na these types of records are arbitrary.

Nothing Djokovic has done has fit the mold.

I suspect he will win at least 1 slam next year. If he doesn't in 2025 it will be because he retired not because he can't.

Federer was almost 38 and would have broken this record if Djokovic hadn't stunned him with the MP saves and that epic hero tennis victory.

No reason Djoko can't win a slam at 38ish.

 

Na these types of records are arbitrary.

Nothing Djokovic has done has fit the mold.

I suspect he will win at least 1 slam next year. If he doesn't in 2025 it will be because he retired not because he can't.

Federer was almost 38 and would have broken this record if Djokovic hadn't stunned him with the MP saves and that epic hero tennis victory.

No reason Djoko can't win a slam at 38ish.

No way he ever beats Alcaraz at a slam now. Just aint happening. He blew two chances to be undisputed GOAT . Uso 2021 and yesterday. To see him reduced to tears was so sad really. Felt for the guy. Alcaraz the King now. Sponsors are flooding to him. He is the face of tennis now.

 

Djokovic will have a chance to win Wimbledon even at 39... let that sink in.

 

A lot can change in tennis in 3 years. I doubt he will have much chance, he isn’t even that good anymore at 36.

 

Federer should have this record… with 37y 11m…

Crazy what this one match did to his legacy. I’m still not over it

 

Federer should have this record… with 37y 11m…

Crazy what this one match did to his legacy. I’m still not over it

Sometimes entire careers and decades of matches are decided by just a few points

 

Just bored and going through some stats. Noticed that there has been very little slam success post 36 years of age. Of course records are made to be broken and I wouldn't put it past ether Djokovic or even Nadal at the FO to win another one but I get the feeling the end is closer then a lot of people think even for Djokovic. View attachment 400208 What do you think? will the record stay the same or will Djokovic and/or Nadal break this? If we go by this Nadal won't win anymore and Djokovic has maybe 4 more chances to win one.

Yup. Djokovic will be 37/2months old by july 2024, the age Rosewall was when he won his last Major.. so his chances for winning a slam are: USO in 2023, AO, RG and Wimbledon in 2024. After that he will be too old. I can see him winning AO next year but the other 3 are going to be very hard to win.

 

Djokovic should win one from the following USO till AO 2025. Can't see him not winning a slam again.

 

Just bored and going through some stats. Noticed that there has been very little slam success post 36 years of age.

Of course records are made to be broken and I wouldn't put it past ether Djokovic or even Nadal at the FO to win another one but I get the feeling the end is closer then a lot of people think even for Djokovic.

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What do you think? will the record stay the same or will Djokovic and/or Nadal break this?

If we go by this Nadal won't win anymore and Djokovic has maybe 4 more chances to win one.

Djokovic will break it. Nadal... maybe... let's see how he looks when he gets back on court. But based on his matches during the 6 months before his break, it does not look good.

One has to put Rosewall into perspective though... the man won these AO titles during a time where most players didn't care enough about the tournament to travel down under.

 

My prediction is Djokovic ends with 24 Slams, another AO and that's it.

 

The way sports are going these days someone will win it past 37, you watch

 

Race against time for Rafa and Djoker. Who knows how fit and healthy Nadal will be when he returns? Djoker has 2 realistic chances. OZ Open and Wimbledon 2024. That will be it for him. I suspect Djoker will retire if he wins Wimbledon next year. Nadal has one chance only, RG 2024.

 

Looking at the chart, nobody won Wimbledon or the USO at 36 or 37 in the OE. Just AO or FO. Djokovics best chances to win another slam will be at AO or FO.

 

Rosewall's record has been on my mind as of late as well. And truth be told, after Sunday I do think it has a chance of surviving. I don't think Nadal will win anything more. I do think Djoković will - but whether he will after W 2024, it's hard to say.

 

Rosewall's record has been on my mind as of late as well. And truth be told, after Sunday I do think it has a chance of surviving. I don't think Nadal will win anything more. I do think Djoković does - but whether he does after W 2024, it's hard to say.

Agree

 

Well, I know Djoker (if he doesn’t win USO 2024) will try to beat Ken Rosewall for becoming the oldest grand slam winner in AO 25 before Ken witnesses in the AO crowd (if he can at his age approx 90). I expect Djoker to retire by the end of 2025 when he can’t win the slams anymore due to Alacarz and Rune dominance.

For Rafa, it will be 50-50 to capture his final slam title in RG24 due to Alcarz’ recent dominance. Will Alacaraz gift Rafa to end his career with 15 RG titles, I highly doubt unless Djoker beat Alcarz again in SF in 2024. We will see how the events will unfold within a year since injuries can happen anytime (look what happened to Zverev). If Rafa captures 15th RG titles, it will be even more difficult for Djoker to break the record by winning the title of RG 2025 since Alcaraz and Rune will rule the world by then.