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Can Djokovic pass Federer for most weeks at No. 1?

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#1 ·
Federer will turn 34 this year. Nadal is getting increasingly prone to injuries. Murray appears unable to have consistency needed to be No. 1. The same can be said about young guns (Dimitrov, Raonic, Nishikori)...
 
#133 ·
This. Who the heck knows? I lost my faith when it comes to youngsters. I also do believe that weeks at #1 really matter and it is a very important stat if you want to judge a player's 'greatness'. Some Rafa fans dismiss this but again 'some of them' have a kinda selective memory and they sort of push their agenda and twist things just to make Nadal 'da best' at everything. Pay attention, I said some Rafa fans, not all of them.

However, IMO I don't think it'll happen. Or, shall I put it this way 'if Djokovic keeps winning big tournaments, more majors etc.' then he might do it. You just never know with him. I just can't see anyone at the moment challenge him, but things in tennis could 'change over the night'.

So, you never know. As a Nole fan I want him to win more majors and then everything else will work out. What did I just say? Nothing I guess ... dear God knows what is going to happen :lol:.
 
#5 ·
I hope so.
 
#7 ·
He is not talented enough to do so.
 
#8 ·
Crazy. It seems there's no other Number 1s after Novak.

Bernie
 
#9 ·
No, but he should pass McEnroe comfortably. Then there's a big gap until Connors/Lendl. With a bit of luck and if Nadal never goes back to his best he may catch them. But I don't see any possibility of catching Sampras and Federer.
 
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#16 ·
Right now it seems impossible. But he is still only 27 and needs more than 3 years to be #1. He is great on all surfaces, very consistent, almost never injured. It's hard to see roger, rafa or murray to be #1 in the future. "Young guns"(raonic, dimitrov, nishikori) are overrated and not so much younger than djokovic. Other than that there is nothing. No competition. Djokovic can dominate in the next 5+ years, easily. This is becoming the real weak era. we can only hope the next generations (kyrgios, coric...) wont be as useless as dimitrov generation.
You say it seems impossible then go on to describe the current conditions and how that makes it very possible. Djokovic needs to be #1 for 3+ years to pass Federer, with the current state of competition it seems very plausible to me that this can happen.
 
#18 · (Edited)
The young guns are useless and Fed is aging, Nadal is broken, Murray is feminist. I think Novak will easily dominate the next 7 seasons.






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On a serious note, it's not going to happen by a long shot. It's high time he gives in to physical and mental fatigue (his face already looks tired recently imo), the 'useless' young guns are probably good enough to get a win over subpar Novak, and don't forget about the upsets which will become more frequent, also he's not Nadla who can moonball his way through 73% of his matches, and ffs he doesn't have Fed's longevity, stop thinking that he'll 'easily' dominate even the next 2 seasons, someone said 5+ :facepalm:
 
#21 ·
The young guns are useless and Fed is aging, Nadal is broken, Murray is feminist. I think Novak will easily dominate the next 7 seasons.






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On a serious note, it's not going to happen by a long shot. It's high time he gives in to physical and mental fatigue (his face already looks tired recently imo), the 'useless' young guns are probably good enough to get a win over subpar Novak, and don't forget about the upsets which will become more frequent, also he's not Nadla who can moonball his way through 73% of his matches, and ffs he doesn't have Fed's longevity, stop thinking that he'll 'easily' dominate even the next 2 seasons, someone said 5+ :facepalm:
I have no idea where this comes from. It seems all Fed fans think this way. WHY? If anything, he should have a longer career due to his incredible flexibility/diet/conditioning.
 
#23 ·
WHY? If anything, he should have a longer career due to his incredible flexibility/diet/conditioning.
He's a defensive baseliner, and moreover, a year behind Federer at the equivalent age.
 
#25 ·
I think he defies such qualifications but if it makes you feel good, you can call him whatever you want.
I don't know, he looks strong but then he looks weak. His endurance is way lower than the other players and he seems to play through injuries a lot. I don't know if he is doing enough to recover . People around him are ridiculous, Vajda and Becker are about in shape as Rob Ford or a lay man on a street.
 
#28 ·
I find 1 thing interesting. People think Djokovic can only play this way. As he gets older he will probably become more offensive, play shorter points. As NSM said, his serving and net game are improving. You think Djokovic can't play attacking tennis? Watch 2008 AO then. He would definitely be able to at least be consistent top5 player and contest for Slams - something like Federer does these days. He is already more offensive than 2 years ago, IMO.

I don't say Djokovic will pass Federer in weeks at #1, he will probably not, but I don't get people taking 'he doesn't have Fed's longevity'. You can only make guesses.
 
#33 · (Edited)
I don't say Djokovic will pass Federer in weeks at #1, he will probably not, but I don't get people taking 'he doesn't have Fed's longevity'. You can only make guesses.
even before considering Djokovic will change his game and/or is not a grinder, I would like an evidence that what people call grinders don't age well : I've seen many grinders have a very long carreer without a big loss of level.

Connors was not especially a serve-and-volleyer.
Agassi had a very long carreer and was more like Djokovic's kind of player (he had quite empty moments in his carreer, yes)
Lendl was successful until quite an old age among number 1s.

And among modern players, Ferrer is the most famous on this board :lol: And among less good players, I've seen many ones : Montanes is still there, where are Gonzo, Safin, Llodra and Malisse who were the same age as him ? Ramirez-Hidalgo, Eschauer, even Russell is a kind of grinder

if you have motivation and good training discipline (and smoke less maybe :lol: ), if your movements and shots are not too harmful for your body (I think Nadal's steps are harmful for his body) and if you have a good body (Nadal's and in a lesser extent Murray's genetics are not that good), I think it's very possible.

Djokovic's body is elastic and thin, I think it's good not to spend too much energy.

Beside that, of course his game is changing to go more to the net and even more importantly get more free points on first serve.

And comparing to Federer and Nadal, it seems to me that his game doesn't need as much explosiveness, which is imo the reason why he has declined less than them at the same age imo. Another reason is that both Federer and Nadal at their best turned their backhand a lot to play forehands : Djokovic doesn't need that at all, as didn't either Connors or Agassi.

So far, I can't see any reason why he wouldn't last long ... except that I don't think he has as much passion for the game as Connors or Nadal and Federer, and motivation is very important in the long run.
 
#34 ·
Better question is who can take No.1 from Novak?!

Four years in a row he takes 1 Slam + 3-5 Masters + 1 WTF(3 in a row)... incredible consistant throughout the year, from AO to WTF, with dozen of finals and titles.

With older Fed and Nadal, Murray mentally down... Wawrinka, Nishikori are not young players any more... Kyrgios and Coric have a lot to prove...who can challenge him in a long term?!

If he stays without major injuries, has motivation and will...he can be No.1 in a next couple of years without doing something special.
 
#37 ·
When Rafa made his cameback in 2013 everyone was talking how he is unstoppable and will win at least 20 GS'. Now we have the same with Novak. Fed is retirement since 2009 and now it is 2015 and he is #2. Yeah i am sure everyone could see the future in 5 years on this forum. Things could change so quickly in three months in the game.Fed should be very happy after this match .
Why? He made his 6 years younger opponent and #1 very nervous so to make DF' and to brake his racquet when playing his B+ game.