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Men have too much power to keep the ball in the court with flat groundies, plain and simple.
Venus and Serena have too much also, so hit with topspin most of the time.
When you face strong topspins all the time, it's easier to return with the same.
And topspin, even hit a little short, can keep the opponent well away from the net.
Girls all started when they were little, so hit flat as a natural shot. As they grew to humongous heights (Sharapova), they retain the flat forehand, but need perfect body posture to keep the ball in play. Hard to keep perfect body posture when you're being run off the court by some strong hitter.
Seles had tons of power also but hit very flat same with Davenport. So from what you are saying its natural for women to hit flat? But men hit with spin?
 
Seles had tons of power also but hit very flat same with Davenport. So from what you are saying its natural for women to hit flat? But men hit with spin?

Seles' power is nowhere near that of Serena's. You're talking about "pace." Pace is related to one component of the shots power - translational power. But there is another component - rotational power (which Seles imparted less of on the ball than Serena does now).
 
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Yes, they are. But you need top spin to make the ball land inside the court consistently. By development of hi-tec racquets and strings we already see more and heavier topspins than ten or fifteen years ago and some say future of the game will bring in generating even more power and spin (that means more Nadal's on the tour :tape:). Plus, adding spin brings more variety and quality into the game anyway.

Flat hitting is more supported by WTA, with those brainless ballbashing players.
 
No one, and I mean no one who was ever good at tennis in the history of the sport hit the ball without spin. Spin gives you control and adds difficulty for your opponent by making timing and tracking more difficult. I've played against and with people who hit the ball truly flat at the club level, those are like knuckle balls, the ball literally has no arc, it just goes whatever way the wind blows it, and has almost no rotation on it.

By flat you must mean without shape(as the Aussies call it). All players hit with spin, so when you say someone is a flat hitter this has nothing to do with the level of spin, the only thing that varies is the arc the ball takes when it's hit. Infact to flatten the ball out requires alot of spin for control. The level of arc on a ball has to do with the area and angle of the racquet face when it strikes the ball, this gives the ball more severe or less severe arcs. Today the modern player is capable of hitting many spins and arcs(flat or loopy). It is only the truly one dimensional player who hits the ball flat(without arc) all the time. More arc makes the shot higher percentage(room to get over the net, or take pace off the ball and still get it back deep so you can have more time to return to the center of the court) thus making loopy shots a valuable shot on defense or neutral play. Then you have players like a Nadal who hit those loopy shots very fast, making it an offensive weapon. Of course this is over simplified but, simply put a flat shot is an offensive shot in most cases used to take time away from an opponent by trading percentage for speed on the ball. A player is limited if they are unable to hit the ball in a variety of ways...
 
Soderling, Gonzalez & Federer can flatten out their forehands incredibly, Roddick 2003ish, but at the moment no one hits flatter than James Blake.. the guy in your sig.
 
Is this thread a joke?

Yes, they are. But you need top spin to make the ball land inside the court consistently. By development of hi-tec racquets and strings we already see more and heavier topspins than ten or fifteen years ago and some say future of the game will bring in generating even more power and spin (that means more Nadal's on the tour :tape:). Plus, adding spin brings more variety and quality into the game anyway.

Flat hitting is more supported by WTA, with those brainless ballshing players.
If you have complete control of your strokes, then you don't need to have loopy crap like Nadal or Gasquet, if you can control your FH completely, like Henman, your flat shot can be destructive, especially on grass and hard court. This is why he knocked out Federer in 2001 in Wimbledon, and why he had a decent career.

Brainless ball bashing players? 3 players in your sig "bash the ball", but they have more to their game.
 
If you have complete control of your strokes, then you don't need to have loopy crap like Nadal or Gasquet, if you can control your FH completely, like Henman, your flat shot can be destructive, especially on grass and hard court.

Brainless ball bashing players? 3 players in your sig "bash the ball", but they have more to their game.
Yes, but that kind of game is quite risky. ;) And by slowing down all possible surfaces thesedays, flat shot isn't such a weapon anymore. :shrug: Which is a pity, of course.
By "you need top spin" I didn't mean Nadal spin, just ordinary topspin for some control. Because Henman, when he was in lets say mediocre form, could smack those forehands in the middle of the net or 2 meters out.
Who of my signature players bashes the ball? Maybe Seppi and Mathieu from time to time? :)
I hope you agree that WTA is really onedimesional (look at Ivanovic or Sharapova). :eek:
 
Soderling, Gonzalez & Federer can flatten out their forehands incredibly, Roddick 2003ish, but at the moment no one hits flatter than James Blake.. the guy in your sig.
And for all that super-flat hitting, James has 0 MS titles, 0 Grand Slams and 0 TMC titles! :worship::worship::worship: All hail super-flat hitters!
 
Typical clueless thread from a rafatard.
 
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