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Any thoughts on this?
Would achieving the Double Career Grandslam be a turnpoint on GOATs debate?
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There is no way of knowing what is happening in the goat debate anyway, its just a whole lot of random and biased opinions.
Rafa winning another AO won't sway a Federer fan.
Whereas I think in year 2100 we'll get a better picture, as most of the current fans will be dead, so the people of 2100 will look at the achievements and footage, and draw conclusions without emotion getting in the way.
Rafa winning another AO won't sway a Federer fan.
Whereas I think in year 2100 we'll get a better picture, as most of the current fans will be dead, so the people of 2100 will look at the achievements and footage, and draw conclusions without emotion getting in the way.
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Fake record.
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Turning Point?
Everyone has a different turning point. Most seem to beleive slam count, which doesn'[t even begin to tell the whole story. But fine want to beleive that, once Rafa gets 20 it's over for Fed; 21 really over.
My turning point happened long ago--fed got half his slams almost all his weeks at #1 against weaker competition before Djok and Rafa, has not shown any superiority to Rafa and Djok once they were adults (even the teenage Rafa was beating Fed) so Djok and Rafa have been better than Fed, having acheived what they did always against the other two--whereas Fed acheived half of what he did against weaker competition.
This is so bloody obvious it's ridiculous. Fed has a losing H2H against both Rafa and Djok. That tells you everything already.
Ask instead why the GOAT lie about Fed for so long.
Turning point is a stupid question on top of a lie.
Everyone has a different turning point. Most seem to beleive slam count, which doesn'[t even begin to tell the whole story. But fine want to beleive that, once Rafa gets 20 it's over for Fed; 21 really over.
My turning point happened long ago--fed got half his slams almost all his weeks at #1 against weaker competition before Djok and Rafa, has not shown any superiority to Rafa and Djok once they were adults (even the teenage Rafa was beating Fed) so Djok and Rafa have been better than Fed, having acheived what they did always against the other two--whereas Fed acheived half of what he did against weaker competition.
This is so bloody obvious it's ridiculous. Fed has a losing H2H against both Rafa and Djok. That tells you everything already.
Ask instead why the GOAT lie about Fed for so long.
Turning point is a stupid question on top of a lie.
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Federer can't get the double slam, he doesn't have 2 FOs. Duh
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If King manages to win another Roland Garros there's no denying it's extremely impressive. I don't feel he needs it though as he already has won four in a row which shits on anything Fedal have ever done.
Fed not ever winning Monte Carlo/Rome and Rafa never winning Miami, Paris or ATP Finals are all tremendous asterisks for them which unfortunately are going to rule them out of GOAT contention when it's all said and done. King's more well-rounded resume and eventually the slam record will seal the deal for him.
Fed not ever winning Monte Carlo/Rome and Rafa never winning Miami, Paris or ATP Finals are all tremendous asterisks for them which unfortunately are going to rule them out of GOAT contention when it's all said and done. King's more well-rounded resume and eventually the slam record will seal the deal for him.
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uh....what??
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There is no debate. The one with the most number of grand slams is GOAT, considering the fact that Big 3 have won all 4 grand slams at least once, and the fact that many reputed players of the past (Nalbandian, Davydenko, Coria, Berdych, Ferrer etc., and there are a few in line to be in the same situation like Tsonga, Nishikori, Dimitrov, Raonic) have won Olympics, Tour Finals, and Masters, but have retired without winning a grand slam. Grand slams are untouchable to ordinary players.
Ask Serena, why does she come back and try to win one more grand slam to equal Court's 24 grand slams, after she lost 4 grand slam finals in the past 2 years in an attempt to equal that record? She wants to have that grand slam record to be called as the undisputed GOAT.
Ask Serena, why does she come back and try to win one more grand slam to equal Court's 24 grand slams, after she lost 4 grand slam finals in the past 2 years in an attempt to equal that record? She wants to have that grand slam record to be called as the undisputed GOAT.
Doubt it. GOAT debate will always exist but milestones cannot b denied. As of now, Nadal is Clay BOAT (Borg sharing this is arguable having retired prematurely at 26), Fed is arguably Grass BOAT while Novak trails Fed by just 1 HC major & can surpass him in 2020 if he schedules wisely but also possesses the only Golden Masters ever.
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Even with DCGS Rafa still needs 21 to offset his weeks at #1 being so low plus no WTF title
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Every one of the three will get a boost on GOAT claim achieving DCGS. However, it will probably help Rogie the most as his only RG title is with a big fat *.
Novak's single RG is about right. Rafa's single AO, oh well, he got 4 US Open, no?
Novak's single RG is about right. Rafa's single AO, oh well, he got 4 US Open, no?
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As a Federer fan, I have to agree lmao.
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