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Can someone think of the longest list of pigeons?
I mean some active player has to be the pigeon of someone who is the pigeon of another pigeon etc. up until Nadal or Djokovic?

any idea?
 

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Can someone think of the longest list of pigeons?
I mean some active player has to be the pigeon of someone who is the pigeon of another pigeon etc. up until Nadal or Djokovic?

any idea?
What kind of record qualifies a player as a pigeon?
 

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Does a pigeon have to have 0 wins against a player, or just lose a LOT?

If it's not strictly 0-wins, here's one list:

Mirnyi -> Bjorkman -> Robredo -> Almagro -> Ferrer -> Federer -> Nadal
 

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Using only active players, I can get a 15-string going. There may be longer ones - some of the guys in the middle had multiple possible paths and I didn't explore them all.

Nadal -> Federer (23-10) -> Wawrinka (15-2) -> Berdych (11-5) -> Verdasco (10-4) -> Seppi (7-2) -> Dodig (6-1) -> Karlovic (5-0) -> Benneteau (5-1) -> Lopez (6-2) -> Youzhny (6-2) -> Simon (7-3) -> Tipsarevic (7-2) -> Nishikori (5-0) -> Matosevic (5-0).
 

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^^ impressive feat by Matosevic
(and Dodig 5-0 Karlovic, who'd have thought?)
 

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got one with 16, though with retired players:

Nadal 15-5 - Murray 10-3 - Tsonga 7-2 - Simon 4-0 - Hewitt 7-1 - Blake 7-1 - Davydenko 9-3 - Berdych 6-1 - Monfils 9-2 - Kohlschreiber 5-1 - Soderling 10-4 - Ferrer 8-2 - Robredo 5-1 - Starace 6-2 - Andujar 5-1 Ramos
 

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I wonder what the biggest circular loop is.
I'm sure this isn't the biggest, but this is a loop:

Seppi (6-1) Dodig (5-0) Karlovic (5-1) Benneteau (6-2) Lopez (6-2) Youzhny (5-1) Seppi
 

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got one with 16, though with retired players:

Nadal 15-5 - Murray 10-3 - Tsonga 7-2 - Simon 4-0 - Hewitt 7-1 - Blake 7-1 - Davydenko 9-3 - Berdych 6-1 - Monfils 9-2 - Kohlschreiber 5-1 - Soderling 10-4 - Ferrer 8-2 - Robredo 5-1 - Starace 6-2 - Andujar 5-1 Ramos
Yours have Simon in step 4. If you borrow from below you can get a lot more ahead of Simon. It should in fact be 24.


Using only active players, I can get a 15-string going. There may be longer ones - some of the guys in the middle had multiple possible paths and I didn't explore them all.

Nadal -> Federer (23-10) -> Wawrinka (15-2) -> Berdych (11-5) -> Verdasco (10-4) -> Seppi (7-2) -> Dodig (6-1) -> Karlovic (5-0) -> Benneteau (5-1) -> Lopez (6-2) -> Youzhny (6-2) -> Simon (7-3) -> Tipsarevic (7-2) -> Nishikori (5-0) -> Matosevic (5-0).
 
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