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If Stan hadn't broken through, and Novak had won both his Slams (which seems nearly certain), he'd be 10-7 right now, having won 4 of last 6 & dominated the tour on all levels. You could argue that Stan's been the wildcard in the mix preventing the full dawn of the Age of Novak, and that in retrospect, the AO 2013 match was an early sign.

What would the tennis world be like right now if Novak had won the Australian Open and Wimbledon last year, and the Australian Open and the French Open this year?

Interested in hearing people's thoughts on this.
 

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I dont like wawrinka's tennis, winning a slam then dropping out of most tournaments in the first rounds for the rest of the year.
 

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You're failing to take into accounts that players are human and not robots programmed to perform to a certain level at a certain tournament. If Djokovic wins AO 2014, his entire mindset at the time is different, same for the rest of the tour, etc... ie tennis history wouldn't have followed the same course. Not to mention draws being different in the subsequent tournaments due to different rankings,etc...
 

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You're failing to take into accounts that players are human and not robots programmed to perform to a certain level at a certain tournament. If Djokovic wins AO 2014, his entire mindset at the time is different, same for the rest of the tour, etc... ie tennis history wouldn't have followed the same course. Not to mention draws being different in the subsequent tournaments due to different rankings,etc...
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I dont like wawrinka's tennis, winning a slam then dropping out of most tournaments in the first rounds for the rest of the year.
yes because watching the same boring-ass defensive players winning slams over and over again is much more thrilling :lol:

You're failing to take into accounts that players are human and not robots programmed to perform to a certain level at a certain tournament. If Djokovic wins AO 2014, his entire mindset at the time is different, same for the rest of the tour, etc... ie tennis history wouldn't have followed the same course. Not to mention draws being different in the subsequent tournaments due to different rankings,etc...
This. He still would have won a lot, though exactly what is unknown.
 

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Nah... Djokovic would have found another unlikeable player to choke a couple of big matches against. He's just that kind of guy, sadly :sad:.
 

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It is the "Age of Novak" :shrug:

A few weeks ago it was all about how Djokovic's dominance was so total that it was boring, someone needed to defeat him to add a little variety. Surely one match result can't completely reverse the landscape of tennis to the extent that this can no longer be considered a Djokovic dominated period.

If Wawrinka hadn't defeated Djokovic (assuming Djokovic won both of those slams along with all others he has actually won), things would be a bit more boring on the variety front, but it'd be perhaps more interesting in terms of looking at someone getting within touch of the all time records.

Wawrinka is a wildcard that has prevented Djokovic from converting his overall dominance (in terms of being consistently above the rest of the field) into more slams. But he is not the only one, or else Djokovic would still be sitting on 2-3 slams per year despite Wawrinka peaking every now and then and denying him a slam or two. What if Murray didn't defeat him in USO 2012 and W 2013? (That's another two seasons with 2+ slams). What if Nadal hadn't risen to surpass him in 2013? (That's another YE #1 and another couple of slams - and a CYGS if we are simultaneously removing Murray). So yeah, if Wawrinka wasn't around it would be even more Djokovic dominated - the same as if Nadal, Murray, Federer, Nishikori or Cilic weren't around it'd be an even more Djokovic dominated era. But (unless the second half of this season goes drastically different to the first half) you can't look 2011 to 2015 and not say it was part of the age of Djokovic, and Nadal is the player that ate most into that dominance, not Wawrinka.
 

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Nah... Djokovic would have found another unlikeable player to choke a couple of big matches against. He's just that kind of guy, sadly :sad:.
:spit: at the notion that Djokovic choked the RG final.
 

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Also, what's this 'Age of Novak' thing now? It has also been infesting my Twitter timeline in recent times, now it's got on to MTF too? That's even more distressing than the assumption that you change a result and everything in tennis stays the same...
 
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Also, what's this 'Age of Novak' thing now? It has also been infesting my Twitter timeline in recent times, now it's got on to MTF too? That's even more distressing than the assumption that you change a result and everything in tennis stays the same...
LOL. That's probably where I picked it up, haha. I've been seeing it around a lot lately.
 

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You're failing to take into accounts that players are human and not robots programmed to perform to a certain level at a certain tournament. If Djokovic wins AO 2014, his entire mindset at the time is different, same for the rest of the tour, etc... ie tennis history wouldn't have followed the same course. Not to mention draws being different in the subsequent tournaments due to different rankings,etc...
True but it's highly unlikely that if we remove Stan from the game, Nole would do worse, more likely that he would do even better than these 2 specifics slams only.
 

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havn't we been living in the novak era the whole time?
 

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Give it a rest Stanislas tards.
 

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No, because Nadal would have won AO 14 and have the double slam, 15 total, and knocking on Fed's door
 

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No, because Nadal would have won AO 14 and have the double slam, 15 total, and knocking on Fed's door
If it had been Nadal-Djokovic in the final (no way Berdych beats Djokovic in the SF), do you think Nadal would have beaten Djokovic? Even if he hadn't injured his back?
 
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