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EVERYBODY KNOWS RAFA IS TRUE KING OF CLAY
Now let's see his stats when we remove the titles on clay.

If there was no slam on clay, 3x M1000 and 10 more clay tournaments per year, Rafa would be the third best player of this decade.

Rafa owns 9 slams and 19 M1000 on clay!

Without clay it looks like this:

Fed: 16 slams, 15 M1000
Novak: 6 slams, 14 M1000
Rafa: 5 slams (lol), 8 M1000

#1 Roger (overal specialist and GOAT)
#2 Nole (hc specialist)
#3 Rafa (clay specialist)
 

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Moreover, if Nadal played in the 90's he'd have 9 slams, or possibly less with more clay specialists then. There is no player in history who has benefited from surface homogenisation than him.

Saying that though, it's unfair to take away his biggest strenght. Include Fed without Wimbledon, Novak without AO. I'm sure regardless that Rafa is still 3rd best because he's the clay GOAT but still.
 

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Please OP, Rafa is Love. Rafa is Life.
 

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Take out Roger's best surface from his title count. It's 10 slams and 21 masters. :lol: Weak era, brah!
Nole will have 1 slam and 5 masters if we do the same to him. :lol:
 

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EVERYBODY KNOWS RAFA IS TRUE KING OF CLAY
Now let's see his stats when we remove the titles on clay.

If there was no slam on clay, 3x M1000 and 10 more clay tournaments per year, Rafa would be the third best player of this decade.

Rafa owns 9 slams and 19 M1000 on clay!

Without clay it looks like this:

Fed: 16 slams, 15 M1000
Novak: 6 slams, 14 M1000
Rafa: 5 slams (lol), 8 M1000

#1 Roger (overal specialist and GOAT)
#2 Nole (hc specialist)
#3 Rafa (clay specialist)
Forget surfaces, because I tell you when Nadal has 18 slams all that will matter is he has 1 more than Federer. Lets flip this argument and Say what if there were NO SLAMS ON HARDCOURT????? you know that fake squeaky surface. Do you see how ridiculous these arguments are? A slam is a slam regardless of what surface it's on. A player STILL has to beat 7 opponents in the best of 5 sets, get over it.

I know you Federer fans are desperate to salvage something. I mean just as Sampras was shocked how relatively soon his 14 slam record was broken by Federer. You will simply have to come to terms with the fact that Federer will ultimately have to settle for number two on the alltime list by the time Nadal is done.
 

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If OP had brains, there would be no such thing as this thread.
 

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Forget surfaces, because I tell you when Nadal has 18 slams all that will matter is he has 1 more than Federer. Lets flip this argument and Say what if there were NO SLAMS ON HARDCOURT, you know that fake squeaky surface. Do you see how ridiculous these arguments are? A slam is a slam regardless of what surface it's on. A player STILL has to beat 7 opponents in the best of 5 sets, get over it.

I know you Federer fans are desperate to salvage something. I mean just as Sampras was shocked how relatively soon his 14 slam record was broken by Federer. You will simply have to come to terms with the fact that Federer will ultimately have to settle for number two on the alltime list by the time Nadal is done.
I agree. He will be considered greater, which disgusts me. 4 more RG's, noones gonna stop him
 

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Take out Rafa's weakest surface and he'd have 19 majors.
 

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Another Nadal thread great, seriously guys you need to stop with the obcession, some of you are getting confused and think this is the Nadal player forum.
 

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Another Nadal thread great, seriously guys you need to stop with the obcession, some of you are getting confused and think this is the Nadal player forum.
Its a sign of desperation from Federer devotees, every time Nadal wins a slam it's going to hurt real bad for them. The next one puts him cleanly into second place alltime.

Then every time he is in a slam final, and be sure they won't ALL be on the red stuff. They will need extra toilet paper and tranquilisers to get through it. Sad really, they must accept RECORDS are made to be BROKEN. Except 9 French opens in 10 years. That's safer than Jack Nichlaus's 18 majors in golf. It's simply not getting broken.
 

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Fed 1 9 7
Rafa 9 3 2
Nole 0 5 1

If Rafa wins another wimby in his career, that 1 in Fed's resume will be exposed.


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Fed 1 9 7
Rafa 9 3 2
Nole 0 5 1

If Rafa wins another wimby in his career, that 1 in Fed's resume will be exposed.


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Its already exposed. The supposedly greatest of all time SHOULD A, have at least two slams on each surface and B, the best head to head record against all his closest rivals. Only Nadal measures up here.
 

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Yes but who would be the best if tennis was a game about butt picking? Have you thought about that? Eh?
 

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Yes but who would be the best if tennis was a game about butt picking? Have you thought about that? Eh?
You seriously think that Novak and Andy wouldn't butt-pick for Serbia and Scotland respectively if that were the case? Fed, I'm not sure about - I don't think Mirka would let him.
 

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If there is no grass:
Rafa: 12slams
Fraud: 10slams
 
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