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Will 2020 be the year of the big six?

  • Yes, OP is correct, these six players will dominate the year to come.

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • No there will really be a big five 2020, no more, as the man from Mallorca will go fishing.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No there will really be a big five 2020, no more, as time is up for Methuselah on the big stage.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No there will really be a big five 2020, no more, as somone will take up a career as a piano player.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No there will really be a big five 2020, no more, dissing Olympics will prove to be a huge mistake.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No there will really be a big four 2020, no more, as two players will be busy trash-talking.

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • No there will really be a big three 2020, the usual suspects are still too strong.

    Votes: 3 25.0%
  • No, ban OP, he has totally overlooked the rise of ... (give favorite player of choice in comments).

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • No, ban OP - this sort of bandwagoning must come to an end.

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • No, ban OP - he has forgotten the comeback king. (Hint - special option for Moozza.)

    Votes: 4 33.3%

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Will 2020 be the year of the big six?

Maybe this is just another bandwagoning idea in light of the most recent tournament results, but please hear me out. As for big three, of course, they won't last forever. Yet, they are still good enough to occupy the three top spots of the ranking. While the younger generation behind will gain further ground, big three are not ready to step down just yet. Djokovic will take at least one more slam during 2020, Rafa will be the favorite in RG as usual, and Federer will at least be a contender on the big stage.

While Medvedev got a bit of a reaction late in the season, his run of good form lasted long enough not to be considered a fluke. Even here in London, not playing his best, he was able to reach match point versus the world number one. No doubt, he will come back strong in 2020.

At the time of writing, we don't know who will win the WTF final. It is not crucial for this thread, though. No matter if Thiem wins the final or not, the Austrian has proven once and for all he is more than a clay-court specialist. In addition to his hard-court titles, no player has more victories than him against top ten this year - and most of the wins have come on hardcourt. As for Tstsipas, well, he is the youngest of the top players. As could be expected, he has taken huge steps during 2019, starting the season ranked 15 and ending as number 6. The progress is likely to continue. Count on Tsitsipas being a tough contender at all the slams next year.

After the top six, there is a jump in at least 1500 ranking points to the next spot, occupied by Zverev. If Tsitsipas wins, the jump in points between the sixth and seventh positions will be closer to 2000. While the German is still fairly young, he has not made progress in the last two years, rather the opposite. He might turn this around at some point, but as of now, the prospects don't look good.

As for the rest of the field, young players like Felix Auger Aliassime, Denis Shapovalov, and Jannik Sinner will get into the picture at some point. However, they won't be ready to compete for the biggest titles already in 2020. Thus my conclusion is clear - 2020 will be the year of the big six - the group currently occupying the six top spots of the ranking. Do you agree or am I missing something? Please vote and/or comment.
 

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i am hoping for a changing of the guard, since there are not enough GS for 6 players. I hope at least 2 will be won by players <30. Thiem and Medvedev would be my guesses closely followed by Tsitsipas.
 

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One would hope 2020 is the year when at least ONE slam is won by a non Big-3 member.
Reality often makes this kind of predictions look silly in retrospect, but I think Federer will finally be on his way out next year (as a contender for Slams at least). Rafa is still the favorite for RG but if he keeps on his current roll Thiem might be ready for the big step. Nole's motivation/health are a bit of a question mark, if he's back to full health and committed he is still a candidate for a multi-slam year, but the youngsters will be an increasingly real threat.

Overall yeah, I see big tournaments (GS+M1000) being highly contested between those 6 (Medvedev I don't really know what to expect actually), plus I wouldn't rule Zverev out at M1000s at least, and I also have high expectations for Youzhnypovalov.

And as an italian I hope that Berrettini and Sinner will find a way to crash the party ?
 

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I can only see it happening by the US open, but I don't count on it. I really doubt anyone other than Rafole winning AO. Current level Rafa is enough for RG. There's really no indication that anyone other than the big 3 will even make the Wimbledon final. The Olympics will be a have toll on them and the US Open might be the place, but there, cilic and Wawrinka might be factors. Perhaps Murray will be in the mix again. Kids are fine, but most of the time, you have to go through 2 goats to win a slam. I'm not betting on it. Least for 2020
 

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AO will be the defining moment. A new guy wins it and the others will follow. The changing of the guard will finally arrive.
 

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Will 2020 be the year of the big six?

Maybe this is just another bandwagoning idea in light of the most recent tournament results, but please hear me out. As for big three, of course, they won't last forever. Yet, they are still good enough to occupy the three top spots of the ranking. While the younger generation behind will gain further ground, big three are not ready to step down just yet. Djokovic will take at least one more slam during 2020, Rafa will be the favorite in RG as usual, and Federer will at least be a contender on the big stage.

While Medvedev got a bit of a reaction late in the season, his run of good form lasted long enough not to be considered a fluke. Even here in London, not playing his best, he was able to reach match point versus the world number one. No doubt, he will come back strong in 2020.

At the time of writing, we don't know who will win the WTF final. It is not crucial for this thread, though. No matter if Thiem wins the final or not, the Austrian has proven once and for all he is more than a clay-court specialist. In addition to his hard-court titles, no player has more victories than him against top ten this year - and most of the wins have come on hardcourt. As for Tstsipas, well, he is the youngest of the top players. As could be expected, he has taken huge steps during 2019, starting the season ranked 15 and ending as number 6. The progress is likely to continue. Count on Tsitsipas being a tough contender at all the slams next year.

After the top six, there is a jump in at least 1500 ranking points to the next spot, occupied by Zverev. If Tsitsipas wins, the jump in points between the sixth and seventh positions will be closer to 2000. While the German is still fairly young, he has not made progress in the last two years, rather the opposite. He might turn this around at some point, but as of now, the prospects don't look good.

As for the rest of the field, young players like Felix Auger Aliassime, Denis Shapovalov, and Jannik Sinner will get into the picture at some point. However, they won't be ready to compete for the biggest titles already in 2020. Thus my conclusion is clear - 2020 will be the year of the big six - the group currently occupying the six top spots of the ranking. Do you agree or am I missing something? Please vote and/or comment.

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Big three are done winning all the slams I think. Djokovic is vulnerable to pretty much all of the next gen, who are now all pretty much better than the rest of the field. I think he’ll lose later stages of AO and Tsitsipas, Thiem or Medvedev will win it.

Obviously Rafa at RG is the hardest to go against, but again I think Thiem has a good chance next year. He’s been getting closer and seems a very different player now.

Wimbledon is the one I am struggling the most to see who will win it outside of big three (plus Murray). Wouldn’t be surprised if Murray has one more in him and will be back in the groove by Wimbledon.

USO has always been the most open of the slams. By this stage of next year Shapo, FAA or Sinner may be real contenders too.


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The years to come could be the most top heavy tennis tour ever...

Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Sinner, Thiem could all realistically win majors and are at that level now, 7 players.

Aliassime could join the list very soon. Shapovalov's full potential is still an unknown, but he as well at his best could be beating these players, or at the least the ones below.

Guys like Zverev can be good enough for a match or two to beat these players at his best, the question is if he can string together 2 weeks.

Then you have Murray, Wawrinka, Del Potro, Cilic, Raonic, Anderson, who have only had physical questions to answer, not tennis ones (mental "injury" in Cilic's case). They could make a serious dent at the top if healthy as well, all capable of winning, and Anderson at worst at QF-level when on his game, since 2017.

The ever consistent QF-player Nishikori. And Dimitrov, who is to be respected at the QF-SF plateau as well when on his game.

Players like Kyrgios, Fognini, Tsonga, Berrettini, Edmund, Khachanov, Rublev are good enough to be a bother. Those and the Agut, Monfils, Schwartzman, Goffin, Pouille players, who could make QF's at their best if the field wasn't so strong.

And a load of other high potential single match players like Verdasco, Basilashvili, Struff, Querrey, Isner.
 

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There is no big 6 to begin with.
I'm not really suggesting there is a big six as of yet. While there is a considerable gap in ranking points between Tsitsipas and Zverev, I agree this is not enough to justify such a concept. The guys behind big three have won too few big tournaments to really separate themselves from the pack behind. Still, what happened during 2019 makes it possible to envisage the rise of a "big six" during 2020.

What I mean with the big six suggestion for 2020 is basically a rather close race for the year-end number one, where these six guys are in contention. If we have a situation late next year where six guys have ranking points in the interval 6000-8000, and then a major drop to the number 7 player, then I would consider the concept at least temporarily justified. But even if I get this prediction right, the situation is likely to change already 2021, with still younger players getting into the mix. Thus I don't think "big six" will be a very long-lived concept, even if the phrase might feel relevant and catch on for a brief period
 

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I can’t see Murray’s name mentioned at all in the OP. Is my eyesight going or is Murray being outrageously overlooked in favour of some works who don’t have 10% of his talent and fight?
 

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Lucky acc votes closed mate
ACC = Arse clown competition? That's a bit harsh, man. Admittedly, the poll options were a bit clownish, but the rest of the post was serious. Sure, one can disagree with the main ideas for lots of reasons, but I don't see how the text can appear as offensive in any way. Out of curiosity, what content of the post did you refer to?:unsure:
 
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