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Berdych and Del-Potro are basically the same player.

Equal firepower, equal height, equal aggression, big flat hitters, big off both wings, maybe Del-Potro has even got the edge in movement - which should make him even more likely to own Murray.

So why doesn't he own Murray the way Berdych does?

Surely any big hitter should be able to own Murray like Berdych does?

Also, does Murray's recent loss to Berdych prove he is not going to be a legitimate slam threat in 2012?
 

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Berdych and Del-Potro are basically the same player.

Equal firepower, equal height, equal aggression, big flat hitters, big off both wings, maybe Del-Potro has even got the edge in movement - which should make him even more likely to own Murray.

So why doesn't he own Murray the way Berdych does?

Surely any big hitter should be able to own Murray like Berdych does?

Also, does Murray's recent loss to Berdych prove he is not going to be a legitimate slam threat in 2012?
It's a myth that Del Potro plays like Berdych. Yes they can both hit the ball hard but Berdych likes to paint the lines and go for the corners. Del Potro likes to play with more margins

Berdych is more similar to Soderling. When they are at their best they own every pushing player
 

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Del Potro has played a couple of matches where he has been extremly tired and almost beat Murray. Had not been the case of tiredness and he would have won.. Miami and Canadian Open 2009 for instance.
 

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Del Potro has played a couple of matches where he has been extremly tired and almost beat Murray. Had not been the case of tiredness and he would have won.. Miami and Canadian Open 2009 for instance.
oh, cool, so their h2h basically has a big asterisk over it.

I thought there was something strange there.
 

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oh, cool, so their h2h basically has a big asterisk over it.

I thought there was something strange there.
Nope. Murray owns Del Potro because he is a better player. It's that simple.
 

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Situational issue. Murray would more than likely take Berdych down more often than not if they played more often. Like he does with DelPo. As it is, it feels like he is a really bad match up. Which he isn't.

Also, DelPo fails to impress in most tournaments he plays..
 

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d pot has the game to beat murray......he ran him close a few times if i remember correctly.....we just need to wait a little longer and see what d pot can offer next year......

that said i think berdych employs a slightly more riskier game and whenever the risk pays off, you will usually end up beating anybody, not just murray......
 

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Berdych has beaten Murray once on Clay and once on Hardcourts(a very close 3 setter) in 5 years. Murray and Berdych each won a match as a teenagers a long time ago. Owning Murray? Hardly. But then again, this is a troll thread, like everyone Rodre Fedaggassi has ever posted.
 

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Berdych and Del Potro aren't overly similar. Del Potro isn't really that type of player, although people are continuously blinded by the hot streak he went on in the summer of 2009, specifically the Nadal USO match. Del Potro isn't a overwhelmingly forceful offensive player. He's not that great as an attacking player. Berdych, however, is a pure attacking player, and those are the types of players that give Murray trouble.
 

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Berdych and Del Potro aren't overly similar. Del Potro isn't really that type of player, although people are continuously blinded by the hot streak he went on in the summer of 2009, specifically the Nadal USO match. Del Potro isn't a overwhelmingly forceful offensive player. He's not that great as an attacking player. Berdych, however, is a pure attacking player, and those are the types of players that give Murray trouble.
What about Tsonga? Murray has the same H2H against him that he does against Del Po- is he not an attacking player either?
 

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Berdych
- Defends better
- Volleys better
- Returns better
- Moves better
- Deals with slices better

Anything that Del Potro does better or is he just a mug? :rolleyes:


Nope. Murray owns Del Potro because he is a better player. It's that simple.

1 > 0 ;)


Spencercarlos is probably correct.
 

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Why doesn't Del-Potro own Murray like Berdych does?

but

Why Berdych doesn't win a slam like Del-Potro does?

:haha:
 

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Berdych
- Defends better
- Volleys better
- Returns better
- Moves better
- Deals with slices better
Dude... Berdych's defense is crap compared to Delpo, slice too. Return in 2011 is better sure, moves better? Not really.

Deals with slices better? Slices are no problem for him anymore.

Why Delpo is not ahead of Berdych in 2011 is simply because he was injured in 2010.

Its ridiculous that people keep dismissing his injuries this year and especially in 2010. It just shows how simple humans here is without any understanding.
 

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I always thought that Soderling and Berdych are more dangerous for Murray than Del Potro, and I guess it's because they are more offensive players and can generate more power from some of the junk balls Murray uses to change pace of the rally.

Also, Berdych is much more willing to come forward than Delpo, and that make a huge difference when playing Murray.
 

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Its retarded to compare these two players when Delpo is mostly counterpuncher and Berdych ballbasher. Delpo does everything better tho, when he plays well.

Both can play so terribly that it makes fans crying some blood tho
 

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Berdych is more of a 'ball striking dictator'- stands at the middle and likes to boss the point, moving his opponent side to side, whereas Del Potro is a counter-basher who plays high percentage power tennis, and he doesn't go for lines, so when he tries to attack Murray, he can't pull it off consistently whereas Berdych is used to it.

Soderling differs as he's a first strike hitter, second or third point he's gone for his shot.

BTW Del Potro definitely defends WAY better than Berdych- that's why he's got the 1 slam and Berdych hasn't- defence is the most important thing these days, nothing else matters.
 
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