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I mean come on just look at the stats :

Roger Federer :

9 Hard Court Slams = 53%

7 Grass Court Slams = 41%

1 Clay Court Slam = 6%

Rafael Nadal :

3 Hard Court Slams = 22%

2 Grass Court Slams = 14%

9 Clay Court Slams = 64%

Pete Sampras :

7 Hard Court Slams = 50%

7 Grass Court Slams = 50%

Andre Agassi :

6 Hard Court Slams = 75%

1 Grass Court Slam = 12.5%

1 Clay Court Slam = 12.5%


Novak Djokovic :

6 Hard Court Slams = 75%

2 Grass Court Slams = 25%



I can't understand why people classified Nadull as a one surface wonder but at the same time support Novak and omit this issue :confused:

At the end of the day Novak is the most dependant of a surface in the open era of all the greats :sad:
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

Because we don't just look at how many slams he won? We also look at other clay tournaments and how far he went in RG.
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

You're omitting SF, F appearances. And SF, F, W on clay masters. He isn't a one-surface player. If we just count slams, an obvious bias appears.
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

You're omitting SF, F appearances. And SF, F, W on clay masters. He isn't a one-surface player. If we just count slams, an obvious bias appears.
But Slams are what define greatness no ? :confused:


If i got a penny for every time someone here posts "9/14" i will already be rich :(
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

Because we don't just look at how many slams he won? We also look at other clay tournaments and how far he went in RG.
That doesn't explain the premise of the OP.
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

Because we don't just look at how many slams he won? We also look at other clay tournaments and how far he went in RG.
That's not the point, at the end what counts is when the player lifts the trophy. And all im saying is that of all the open era greats Djokovic achievements are the ones that are most one surface oriented, but for some strange reason people still call nadull the one surface wonder.
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

With Nadal winning all the clay slams, these stats don't mean much actually.
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

Because Nadal is a talentless moonballer and always beats my favorite. I hate him!
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

I mean come on just look at the stats :

Roger Federer :

9 Hard Court Slams = 53%

7 Grass Court Slams = 41%

1 Clay Court Slam = 6%

Rafael Nadal :

3 Hard Court Slams = 22%

2 Grass Court Slams = 14%

9 Clay Court Slams = 64%

Pete Sampras :

7 Hard Court Slams = 50%

7 Grass Court Slams = 50%

Andre Agassi :

6 Hard Court Slams = 75%

1 Grass Court Slam = 12.5%

1 Clay Court Slam = 12.5%


Novak Djokovic :

6 Hard Court Slams = 75%

2 Grass Court Slams = 25%



I can't understand why people classified Nadull as a one surface wonder but at the same time support Novak and omit this issue :confused:

At the end of the day Novak is the most dependant of a surface in the open era of all the greats :sad:

I don't recall a lot of people saying Nadal can only play on clay, but when you win 9 French Opens, that will overshadow most of your achievements. That record will probably never be broken. As far as Djokovic being the most dependent on surface...I call bullshit. Sampras only got to one RG SF his whole career. Djokovic has won the other 3 Slams and been to 2 French Finals...Also, he's won Masters events on clay. Federer, Nadal and Djokovic can play on any surface. Nadal is better than them on clay, Federer is better than them on grass and Novak will most likely end his career by being the better HC player. The end.
 
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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

That's not the point, at the end what counts is when the player lifts the trophy. And all im saying is that of all the open era greats Djokovic achievements are the ones that are most one surface oriented, but for some strange reason people still call nadull the one surface wonder.
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There are four slams a year two of which are on hard, for Djokovic who has never won FO his spread is pretty consistent with the ratio of slams/surface.
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

All of them are great in all surfaces, the problem is that they complete each other...
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

I don't recall a lot of people saying Nadal can only play on clay, but when you when 9 French Opens, that will overshadow most of your achievements. That record will probably never be broken. As far as Djokovic being the most dependent on surface...I call bullshit. Sampras only got to one RG SF his whole career. Djokovic has won the other 3 Slams and been to 2 French Finals...Also, he's won Masters events on clay. Federer, Nadal and Djokovic can play on any surface. Nadal is better than them on clay, Federer is better than them on grass and Novak will most likely end his career by being the better HC player. The end.

Then clearly you don't visit this forum :confused:

PS: Sampras is 50%-50% by surface in slams meanwhile Djokovic is 75-25% i can clearly see who is the most one dimensional player.
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

I mean come on just look at the stats :

Roger Federer :

9 Hard Court Slams = 53%

7 Grass Court Slams = 41%

1 Clay Court Slam = 6%

Rafael Nadal :

3 Hard Court Slams = 22%

2 Grass Court Slams = 14%

9 Clay Court Slams = 64%

Pete Sampras :

7 Hard Court Slams = 50%

7 Grass Court Slams = 50%

Andre Agassi :

6 Hard Court Slams = 75%

1 Grass Court Slam = 12.5%

1 Clay Court Slam = 12.5%


Novak Djokovic :

6 Hard Court Slams = 75%

2 Grass Court Slams = 25%



I can't understand why people classified Nadull as a one surface wonder but at the same time support Novak and omit this issue :confused:

At the end of the day Novak is the most dependant of a surface in the open era of all the greats :sad:
Get your head out of the stupidity. For starters, 50% of slams are played on HC, as opposed to 25% for CC. So djokovic's 75% is only deviated 25% from the average distribution, while nadal's 64% is deviated 39% from the average. Also, Djokovic has a fairly even win percentage at majors.
 
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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

There are two hardcourts slams and only one claycourt slam

Let's say someone wins 7 slams in 3 seasons, 5 AO/USO and 2 RG. That means 71% compared to 29% hard to clay. Looking at it that way, he's a one surface wonder, right? But also he has a 66% of RG appearence/winning ratio (2 out of 3). Is he a one surface wonder then?. Not really
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

:spit:

There are four slams a year two of which are on hard, for Djokovic who has never won FO his spread is pretty consistent with the ratio of slams/surface.
Then :confused:, that doesn't change the basic idea that 6/8 is more one dimensional than 9/14.

My point is that i have NEVER saw a post here saying that Djokovic is a one dimensional player, But PLENTY if not hundreds saying that the dirtballer only works on the dirt.
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

He also has 7 grass slams. The posts in this thread are baffling.
Well Nadal has 2 grass slams and 3 hard slams other than clay vs. 7 all on grass for Fed so who is the more one dimensional player? :scratch:

And Nadal still has 3 more to win
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

He will always outshine Nadal in that criteria. 2011 shall forever be remembered schooling Nadal on every single surface.
 

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Re: Why Djokovic is not classified as a one surface wonder but the Dirtballer is ?

Nadal 64% slams on clay, Fed 53% on hard. Why the 2nd stat is never mentioned?
I can't understand why people classified Nadull as a one surface wonder but at the same time support Novak and omit this issue :confused:
Clowns, learn to count to begin with.
60-70 % of tournaments are played on hard, that's why it's normal to have the biggest amount of titles on this surface.
While Na Dull has 75 % of titles on clay where only ~25 % of tournaments are played. It definitely means he is a narrow specialist unlike Fed and Djokovic
 
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