He failed two doping tests. The end.

 

It's not up to you to decide where "the end" is.

 

Your post is too long when there's a simple answer - if he keeps this up, he might break their favorite's records.

If it wasn't the Clostebol, it would've been his robotic/boring way of playing, or his boring personality, or that he's too ginger, or that he's not ginger enough, or that he said that he didn't play six kings slam because of the money, or that he doesn't look happy enough after big titles, or that we're in a weak era, or that he should have been a skier and not a tennis player, or that Alcaraz is the real number one because of h2h, or whatever.

 

Because he's a hard court specialist vulturing the weakest hard court era of the century

 

Hard court is tennis. Other surfaces are just like halloween or christmas specials. Grass and clay are designed to interfere with the establishment

 

Because he's not? He's a more powerful Djokovic on hard court and he's not even that young. Don't even get me started on the drug test fiasco.

 

The Ridiculous Doping "Scandal"

Oh, STFU. Funny how you asked me (https://www.menstennisforums.com/th...-tour-level.1032165/?post_id=43254789&nested_view=1&sortby=oldest#post-43254789) for a case where an athlete was banned for having less of an amount of a banned substance in them than Sinner, I gave you one (https://www.menstennisforums.com/th...-tour-level.1032165/?post_id=43254810&nested_view=1&sortby=oldest#post-43254810) and you've had no response.

 

Most are fans of players Sinner beats a lot/blocks in terms of achievements (titles, weeks at #1, year-end no. 1 finishes etc.). For example that Alcaraz gloryhunting troll who posted above me. But they'd usually hide behind the Clostebol excuse while most of they hated Sinner even before.

 

I will tell you why: you see, Djokovic was so amazing on Hard especially, now here comes Sinner and in 2024 he destroys him 3-0 on his beloved Hard Court. It would be ok if he beat Djokovic occasionally, but not like every fucking time, Djokovic fans can't handle it. The doping shit is just an excuse and you know it, you just waited at the minimal opportunity to hate him.
Yes, Sinner is better than Djokovic on Hard, there is always Clay and Grass, just let it go FFS.

 

What an ACC campaign

 

I thought the doping situation was still in play with WADA? If that's true then OP needs to let that play out before insisting the issue is a non-issue.

Aside from that I agree, Sinner is bossing it, his dominance is obvious and outside of Carlos he looks a lot better than everyone else.

 

I thought the doping situation was still in play with WADA? If that's true then OP needs to let that play out before insisting the issue is a non-issue.

It's not in play, in the sense that it has not to be decided if Sinner doped intentionally or not.

Has been confirmed and accepted by Wada, that it was a case of accidental contamination, with a quantity unable to produce any effect on performances.

The matter that stills in play is if Sinner must be however considered responsible for what got injected in his body even if he didnt asked for it or didnt know what was happening, or if he can be considered without any kind of responsability for the doping tests.

 

Is there feature on this forum where I can block all threads/posts about Sinner for a bit?

 

Didn’t Lance Armstrong fail 4 drug tests, citing he was using cream for saddle soreness. Apparently as the amounts found were so minuscule he was never banned…. Hmmmmm yet we keep hearing Sinner fans scream the amount discovered was minuscule….

 

They're full of shit and they know it, hence this embarrassing thread/rant.

 

People are often biased. Objectively, I am not sure how anyone can argue that Sinner is NOT currently the best player. The rankings show this... maybe they can say, he was not the best player all year. You can argue, Alcaraz was better during the clay and grass swing. But CURRENT... I don't know who is the CURRENT best player if not Sinner. I guess for some people Cincinatti, USO, Shanghai and the ATP finals in the last 4 months is not enough for some people to say that he is the best player at this current moment? Maybe there is a player we don't know about who has won bigger titles in the last quarter of the season.

I say all this while preferring Alcaraz to Sinner.

 

Fucking hell - how many of these paid PR bots does Sinner have on MTF?

Literally failed 2 doping tests in quick succession - absolutely nothing matters after that

 

Not more than Djokovic has 😆
He was cleared from it.

 

sinner is currently the best player in the world according to the rankings. But he has a losing head to head towards Carlos Alcaraz. That is why some people might think he’s not the best player in the world subjectively.

 

But he has a losing head to head towards Carlos Alcaraz.

This. Nadal beat Federer when he finally became #1. Djokovic went on his famous streak against Nadal when he became #1 for the first time. Sinner lost in every single match against Alcaraz this season.

 

following up on my post, most fans remember no.1 years from Federer Djokovic and Nadal with multiple masters series wins combined with huge slam successes, dominating their rivals during those years. Djokovic and Federer achieved the sunshine double multiple times, also winning in the European clay court swing as well as North America hard court swing, as well as Shanghai, Paris. Nadal had years where he swept all clay titles while also winning Montreal and Cindy (10,13). So Janniks feels more like a 2016 Murray, 2001-2 Hewitt, 1999 Andre Agassi, 2003 Roddick, Federer 17 type of no.1. Sure they performed the best in a certain period, but you felt like there were better players at that time. 2016 Djokovic in bi events, 2001-2 Agassi, 1999 Sampras.

 

Murray was the best in 2016.

 

Because in our opinion he isn’t the best? He is the best on current form but Alcaraz is the better player.

 

Bc Alcaraz owns the H2H and slam count.

 

Well most of the people "hating on" Sinner are Djokovic fans. And hating is what they are known for. We've seen them hate on Nadal, Alcaraz and Federer. Murray was never a big enough threat for them to hate.

 

And hating is what they are known for. We've seen them hate on Nadal, Alcaraz and Federer. Murray was never a big enough threat for them to hate.

Yea, while Fed and Nadal fans had nothing but love

 

There’s a certain damn section of the tennis fanbase that seems completely unable (or unwilling) to admit what’s staring them right in the face: Sinner is currently the best player on the tour (or damn near close to it).

Whether it’s his relentless improvement, his dominance in clutch moments, or his consistency at the highest levels, Sinner has proven time and again that he belongs at the very top of the sport. And yet, instead of celebrating his incredible rise, this subset of cringe fans clings to tired arguments, petty criticisms, and outright baseless accusations to undermine him.

The Ridiculous Doping "Scandal"
Let’s start with the most absurd accusation of all: the doping tests. Yes, there was an instance where an infinitesimal trace - one billionth of a gram - of a banned substance was detected in his body. The tennis authorities cleared him of any wrongdoing, and experts have explained that such an amount could have easily come from accidental contamination (in his case, creams).

But no, for some fans, this has become their go-to excuse to tarnish his reputation. It’s as if they’ve forgotten that anti-doping agencies themselves confirmed there was no foul play. Are these the same people who conveniently overlook more significant controversies involving other players? Or is Sinner just an easy target because he’s young, successful, and doesn’t fit their narrative?

"He’s Just a Machine"
Another popular criticism is that Sinner plays "robotic" tennis, lacking the flair or emotional intensity of other players. To that, I ask: Have you even been watching his matches lately? His game is a blend of calculated precision and raw aggression, and his mental fortitude is second to none. Yes, he’s composed on court, but that’s exactly what makes him so dangerous. Call it "robotic" all you want—if that’s what it takes to dismantle the best players in the world, so be it.

Double Standards and Hypocrisy
It’s baffling how some fans will nitpick every aspect of Sinner’s game, personality, or career while blindly worshiping their favorites, no matter how flawed they are. They criticize his "lack of personality" during interviews but forget that plenty of tennis legends weren’t exactly charismatic off the court. They harp on about his "lack of big titles," conveniently ignoring how he’s beaten some of the top names in the game right now and is consistently improving.

And don’t even get me started on the comparisons to players with inflated hype but far fewer accomplishments. Sinner delivers results. Period. The numbers don’t lie, and neither do the trophies.

So, Why the Reluctance?
Maybe it’s because he’s not flashy enough for some fans. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t fit the traditional mold of a superstar. Or maybe, just maybe, it’s because certain fanbases (I won't name which ones) can’t stand to see their favorites eclipsed by someone younger, hungrier, and better. Whatever the reason is, it’s time to stop with the excuses and give credit where it’s due.

In conclusion, Sinner is the real deal. Whether you like his style, his personality, or his approach to the game is irrelevant. The results speak for themselves. It’s time for a certain part of the tennis fanbase to stop grasping at straws and acknowledge the obvious: Sinner is the best right now, and he’s only getting started!!!

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Other players banned for less or same type of reason
Halep
Sharapova
Evans
Gasquet
Brooksby
Ymer

You test positive you face punishment doesnt matter who you are. Even if he is oblivious it could have impacted his game therefore cant be ignored

Whats a shame is....without this...he would be number 1 anyway as he is just the best as you said.

 

Halep

In Halep's case, for example, I've read that the main reason leading to a ban was that they didn't have an explanation of how the substance could have gotten into her body fast enough. On the other hand, Sinner and his team immediately had an explanation of what could have been the reason and source of the substance on the table.

 

They don't like the fact that he's not obnoxious and boisterous. Fuck'em. Sinner is the man.

 

He’s won 2 slams. Very good indeed. But best? Comeback when he has RG and Wimbledon and has consistently beaten Carlos and Novak.

 

He had the better year of the two. It was a close season, but the ATP final determined that.
They're gonna have a lot of back and forth seasons.
It's still super early.

 

Putting aside the doping scandal (which still has a lot to run until early next year when we will finally get some clarity), I think it is fair to say Sinner is playing the highest level tennis in the world.

He has improved in all areas, especially coming forward and pin point serving.

If he escapes any ban come Juanuary or February, let's see how he progresses on clay and grass.

Whereas with Alcaraz, we enjoy the flashy shots, and whipping up the crowd and media. But I am not happy with Alcaraz's serve. It is not good enough to stay number 1 for 52 rolling weeks. Well, not good enough yet, he must work on it more.

 

He doesn't need to stay at No.1 if he keeps having 2 slam seasons

 

He had one good year and this is great

But he needs to prove it more going forward

Plus he is not the most exciting personality compared to Alcaraz

And of course "the massage"

The more he wins, the more people will have to respect

 

I wouldn't call myself a Sinner "hater" per se, but he just leaves me cold. He doesn't play an aesthetically pleasing brand of tennis and he has zero on-court personality. He's borderline robotic. I prefer to watch players with flair and some semblance of personality.

 

What? His aggression, precision and mental toughness are iconic. It's aesthetic itself.

 

@The Federest when I mentioned the trinity of glory hunters in the ACC chat thread I was referring to Djokotards. But Filipo has surprised me by topping that with his degree of Sinner gloryhunting. Shameful.

 

I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not gloryhunting like those retarded Djokotards.