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Guys like Djokovic and Federer who have a massive QF/Semi-final streaks in GS or Nadal and to some extent Sampras who quite often lose in an early rounds, but have better GS finals records?

Making consistent runs for sure takes a bigger toll on player's body and arguably on their mind for maintaining the standard, but on the other hand mental clutchness in taking chances in finals also can't be overlooked.
 

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Mental clutchness is so overrated here. For sure it helps you to get easier thru earlier rounds and win slam finals, though without enough consistency and proper motivation (see Gulbis 2014 RG run) you will not make it that far.

So make take is ofc on Djoker/Fed.
 

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Guys like Djokovic and Federer who have a massive QF/Semi-final streaks in GS or Nadal and to some extent Sampras who quite often lose in an early rounds, but have better GS finals records?

Making consistent runs for sure takes a bigger toll on player's body and arguably on their mind for maintaining the standard, but on the other hand mental clutchness in taking chances in finals also can't be overlooked.
wut. 17>14.
 

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Mental clutchness is so overrated here. For sure it helps you to get easier thru earlier rounds and win slam finals, though without enough consistency and proper motivation (see Gulbis 2014 RG run) you will not make it that far.

So make take is ofc on Djoker/Fed.
It's pretty overrated, but Djokovic himself said in one of the interviews that all of the guys in top-100 are great players, but mental strength is the main factor seprating top-10 from others.

Look at Wawrinka's transformation when he figured out his brain in 2013:worship:
 

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Of course, though consistency thru a decade gives you even more chances to win grand slam titles than clutchness in a few runs, IMO.
That is just the law of big numbers.
 

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Nadal alone is enough to win the contest even if Sampras was a mental mug, which he was not.

Nadal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Federer = Sampras >>>>>> Djokovic.
 

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It is better to get to the finals and lose than not get to the finals. Very simple.
 

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He's referring to their GS final records.

Djokovic: 8-7
Federer: 17-8
Sampras: 14-4
Nadal: 14-6

Djokovic still can't be compared with Federer or Nadal. We'll see if he'll manage to dominate like Federer did for years and how Nadal did in RG for a decade. We'll see if he'll win CYGS and come close to their results in the next few years.

With that said, it's easier to be mentally tough when you're the best. Peak Federer and Nadal were really clutch, and Djokovic is looking like the mentally toughest player now even though he was a choker on many ocassions. I can't forget this years IW.




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Federer has 10-23 against main opponent and Djoko Matchpoints Show at USO 2 years in a row. That's why I voted for Nadal/Sampras.
 

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Nadal alone is enough to win the contest even if Sampras was a mental mug, which he was not.

Nadal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Federer = Sampras >>>>>> Djokovic.
Federer as mentally strong as Sampras :spit:
 

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USO-10/USO-11 losses and inability to beat Nadal outside of Wimbledon:wavey:
Federer never lost to random journeymen in his best Slam when he was at his peak. :wavey:

And what matters are Slams, Fed got 17-8 record, Djoker had a negative one just 1 year ago, and still barely a 50% one now.

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Federer never lost to random journeymen in his best Slam when he was at his peak. :wavey:

And what matters are Slams, Fed got 17-8 record, Djoker had a negative one just 1 year ago, and still barely a 50% one now.

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No need to be at the peak to beating Roddick, Baghdatis, ljubicic and other Gonzales.
 

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And what matters are Slams, Fed got 17-8 record, Djoker had a negative one just 1 year ago, and still barely a 50% one now.

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To be correct, both Fed and Djoker have their relatively skewed final records because of the Mallorcan. Had they found the antidote earlier (in case of Djokovic) or at all (Federer) those records would look much better.
 

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He's referring to their GS final records.

Djokovic: 8-7
Federer: 17-8
Sampras: 14-4
Nadal: 14-6
Even then it makes no sense, Nadal hasn't consistently got to finals past his peak which Federer managed to do a lot, the same with Djokovic when he declines, I doubt he will be reaching as many finals as Federer did past his peak.
 

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Even then it makes no sense, Nadal hasn't consistently got to finals past his peak which Federer managed to do a lot, the same with Djokovic when he declines, I doubt he will be reaching as many finals as Federer did past his peak.
it depends hos do you define peak... as soon as someone got on equal level with Federer, you proclaim Federer peak is over. since you are counting Federer peak started at age of 23(same as Djokovic), and lasted till age of 27, its only fair to assume Djokovic is past his peak... and the way i see it, he is still good enough to reach finals. and not only that, he is winning those finals too.
so you are correct, you make no sense what so ever.

Nadal and Sampras are two biggest mental giants ever. Federer and Djokovic are far behind.
 

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Nadal=Sampras>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Federer>>>>>>>>>>>>Djokovic
 
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