So just because he isn't better than Federer/Djokovic/Nadal it makes him a shit player? Nice logic.Del Potro of course...he is treated a big force in mens tennis but he only won 1 big tournament in his life(aided by Fed's choking) and has a losing record against every top player.........
I said Raonic because at least potro has actually achieved something big, but this is true aswell.Del Potro of course...he is treated a big force in mens tennis but he only won 1 big tournament in his life(aided by Fed's choking) and has a losing record against every top player.........
There are others who is has terrible head to heads against eg. MurraySo just because he isn't better than Federer/Djokovic/Nadal it makes him a shit player? Nice logic.
never said he was shit...where did I say that .....a very very good player but not elite type of player thats allSo just because he isn't better than Federer/Djokovic/Nadal it makes him a shit player? Nice logic.
What? Can you type that in a more coherent sentence?There are others who is has terrible head to heads against eg. Murray
The fact that you actually agree he is overrated, obviously infers he isn't great. Neither are overrated, they get ranked properly for the most part. Del Potro was after all the very first person to beat Nadal/Federer at the same time for a slam title, regardless of how much "luck" was required to do so, only Djokovic has managed to do this one time as well.never said he was shit...where did I say that .....a very very good player but not elite type of player thats all
There are others who is has terrible head to heads against eg. Murray
there are other players who potro has a terrible head to head against, not just the three you mentioned. Don't see what part of that you are having trouble understanding to be honest.What? Can you type that in a more coherent sentence?.
He is overrated in a sense that he is over referred as a part of the "real BIG 4" saying he is better and greater than Murray which is not true.....The fact that you actually agree he is overrated, obviously infers he isn't great. Neither are overrated, they get ranked properly for the most part. Del Potro was after all the very first person to beat Nadal/Federer at the same time for a slam title, regardless of how much "luck" was required to do so, only Djokovic has managed to do this one time as well.
Isn't that embarrassing for them then that he can be so poor but when it really mattered most he was able to maximize his abilities over everybody else like Murray? Fact is Murray couldn't capitalize at the US Open 2009. He was going to face the same Nadal and Federer, but he faltered which gives even more credit to Del Potro. It is completely unfair to judge where Del Potro should be as he went through an injury. Murray, and many other players, don't go through an injury like his. Many players in history don't ever come back yet Del Potro still got back to the top 10. Plus, he has been unlucky with meeting Federer the past few months as Federer will always be a bad match up for him.there are other players who potro has a terrible head to head against, not just the three you mentioned. Don't see what part of that you are having trouble understanding to be honest.
Fact is he is greater than Murray in the overall scheme of things when placing them in history. No, he isn't the real number 4 because he won't be consistent enough as Murray clearly the more consistent player but clearly Murray didn't have to have a dramatic injury like Del Potro, so it is very unfair to put any type of real expectations from Juan Martin.He is overrated in a sense that he is over referred as a part of the "real BIG 4" saying he is better and greater than Murray which is not true.....
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Yes he is 21. Should we send him to the retirement home? How many other <21 year olds are doing better than Mr.Raonic at the moment?Raonic has done nothing and isn't even that young.
Say what? He did a lot in 2009. Then he picked up a horrible injury and missed all but the very start of 2010. 2011 he was one of the biggest climbers in the rankings. And he's still only 23Potro has not done anything for years.
Probably no-one but out of the two Raonic by far. People see him as a future slam winner but he's got a lot to prove. Del Potro? He's been top5 in the world. He's won a slam. He's already a proven top player and has achieved more in his career than most players ever will. Question with him is more: Will he get back to his pre-injury form?So who is more overrated?
novak was 76/2 up until basel late last year... guess who defeated him infront of a home crowd during the davis cup?never said he was shit...where did I say that .....a very very good player but not elite type of player thats all
Del Potro is not overranked, he's overrated by people like you when you say he's greater than Murray. Maybe once upon a time he had a bigger successs, but not now and not since then. Fewer titles, lower ranked, terrible head to head against him.Isn't that embarrassing for them then that he can be so poor but when it really mattered most he was able to maximize his abilities over everybody else like Murray? Fact is Murray couldn't capitalize at the US Open 2009. He was going to face the same Nadal and Federer, but he faltered which gives even more credit to Del Potro. It is completely unfair to judge where Del Potro should be as he went through an injury. Murray, and many other players, don't go through an injury like his. Many players in history don't ever come back yet Del Potro still got back to the top 10. Plus, he has been unlucky with meeting Federer the past few months as Federer will always be a bad match up for him.
Fact is he is greater than Murray in the overall scheme of things when placing them in history. No, he isn't the real number 4 because he won't be consistent enough as Murray clearly the more consistent player but clearly Murray didn't have to have a dramatic injury like Del Potro, so it is very unfair to put any type of real expectations from Juan Martin.