This is a TF topic... But she did play against Karsten Braasch when he was ranked 203rd and was 15 years older than her and he smoked cigarettes and drank alcohol. He still beat Serena 6-1, therefore I think Serena could beat a player ranked somewhere around 500. People really underestimate the difference between Men's and Women's tennis skills.

 

like MAYBE MAYBE mens rank 40/50. when she was like 17 years of age she got decimated in that battle of the sexes by a veteran player who was half drunk and ranked like 205 and so did her sister. obviously she is a lot better now than she was then, she was so young and inexperienced at the time, BUT any top male player is going to destroy her. the womens tour does not play anywhere near the level of the mens. just watch the Del Potro/Djokovic match from the other night! they hit like 1/3 faster than the best women!

Serena looks impressive because the WTA is such a mess, but she could not beat any man above the top 40, maybe a bit higher if lucky. you are seriously underrating the extreme difference between the two tours. the depth may lack in the mens game comapared to how it once was but the womens game is much much worse in that department

 

like MAYBE MAYBE mens rank 40/50. when she was like 17 years of age she got decimated in that battle of the sexes by a veteran player who was half drunk and ranked like 205 and so did her sister. obviously she is a lot better now than she was then, she was so young and inexperienced at the time, BUT any top male player is going to destroy her. the womens tour does not play anywhere near the level of the mens. just watch the Del Potro/Djokovic match from the other night! they hit like 1/3 faster than the best women!

Serena looks impressive because the WTA is such a mess, but she could not beat any man above the top 40, maybe a bit higher if lucky. you are seriously underrating the extreme difference between the two tours. the depth may lack in the mens game comapared to how it once was but the womens game is much much worse in that department

P.S I think the top women in general might equal the top 100 or 150 level men BUT Serena Wiliams exclusively obviously is so much better than her peers that she would get a bit higher rating. TBH though isn't the question sort of irrelevant? if it is unlikely that the best women's player could beat the 100th best mens player then the margin is SO WIDE that the question holds little merit. it's like comparing college basketball and NBA

:lol:

 

But Errani has played against men and women.

 

400 or 500th best men and she said Serena hit harder than them. but what does that say? nothing. obviously Serena is better than a rank 500 man

 

FWIW, I think women tend to generally overestimate themselves versus men.

 

Perhaps Andrey Golubash when he can't find the court :lol:

 

P.S I think the top women in general might equal the top 100 or 150 level men BUT Serena Wiliams exclusively obviously is so much better than her peers that she would get a bit higher rating. TBH though isn't the question sort of irrelevant? if it is unlikely that the best women's player could beat the 100th best mens player then the margin is SO WIDE that the question holds little merit. it's like comparing college basketball and NBA

 

It also depends on the specific man. If he's a clay specialist and the match is on grass, maybe she'd do alright if he has a weak serve and a poor return. It depends on the specific guy's skills. Maybe she can beat the man ranked 379 but not the man ranked 392 because of his specific strengths/weaknesses.

 

She would outhit, say, Hewitt, but he'd still beat her 6-0 6-1

 

"I've practiced with a lot of guys ranked 400th or 500th," Errani explained. "I've never played with a man who hits as hard as she does."

thats because men take it easy with you, sweetie.

 

Mountaindewslave saying asinine shit as usual. Serena may hit the ball hard, but I've played with plenty of pros ranked around 500-700 and there are plenty of great players, including big hitters. I mean Serena barely reaches what 120 MPH on her serve if that? Some of these 500-700 for example can still serve 130+ easily, and that is only the beginning of it.

 

No one in the top 500. Possibly no one in the top 1000.

 

WoW T-doc this is the THIRD time we both think the same
Really this is the answer montaindewslave is just noob that don't understand the ABYSMALL differences between men's and women's tennis
Serina MAY hit harder than SOME of 150-50 but !!!!!!!!!! this means nothing ! Faster reactions ... faster changing of directions ... faster redirecting shots and SO MUCH MORE (thousands more) different i'm just wondered how can someone consider that SERINA could beat someone in TOP 100 this is ludicrous !

 

people seem to forget men and women play with different tennis balls

 

I suspect a few people don't know that. Serena would be crushed by any man in the top 1000.

 

Didn't Roddick say on some talk show that in a McEnroe-Serena match,his money would still be on McEnroe even now as a 50+ year old...

 

The funny thing is that that vetaran player than smoked was droping his rankings after that AO to under 500 and said that if they think they (Serena and Venus) can beat a player ranked outside of TOP500, he's wiling to play them next week :lol:
Joke aside, probably she could beat a few of the TOP400 on a their bad day and on her good day. And if you think guys from TOp500 and bunch of girls that can't hit hard enough, think again. Let's say Ilija Bozoljac who is ranked 376. would blow her of the court. And it also depends on the importance of the match. If it was an exho, then she could even compete with some top100 players, but in a Slam she would be lucky go beat some WC and get in to R2

 

She could beat Karlovic 6-1,6-2 if there was no serving and games just started from a neutral position

 

Mountainclownslave :rain:

 

The ugly ballbashing mug would get double bageled by any male pro player playing seriously. Seriously, it's like a whole different sport, Serena might rule over his fellow brainless WTA ballbashers, but she has no chance against any ATP player , not even to get a game let alone a set or match.

 

Serena is not a ballbasher. Have you even watched her play a full match in the last 7 years?

 

did i see that right

someone said she would matchup vs a top 50???


try top 1000

 

I don't remember where I read this, but I recall a top WTA player saying that she could not beat her brother (or maybe a relative's brother?), who was ranked around 800 on the ATP tour. Top WTA players would lose to ATP players outside of the Top 1000.

 

It was capriati. I believe the bro in question was said to be top 1500.

I've heard fed speak of the depth of the men's game. He admitted to being bullied around the court regularly by guys around top 200 during practice. But they can't maintain that level. At least not against goat.

Serena's vaunted power is at least partly owing to technology no? Doesn't she use a huge racquet head?

 

Well I beat a girl ranked around 250 in WTA 6-1 6-2 having hangover and I haven't touched a racket for 3 weeks. That said, If I play somebody ranked 900-1000 in ATP I usually lose with the same scoreline. Go figure.

 

To be honest, in an exo you're taking away Serena's biggest advantage: her clutch play. In a exo or practice nobody would feel any pressure, Cilic would have beaten Murray in such a scenario. So if Serena played an ATPer (let's say no. 300) on some big stage (Ashe on a windy day) with something big on the line, it's not unlikely the male chokes and Serena elevates her game. Yes, it is not a realistic scenario unless Serena straight up entered a challenger and it somehow took place at Flushing Meadows.

 

As for Serena, I think she could be ranked around 500-600 in ATP.

 

I haven't been around all year, but Mountaindewslave and cveks should be very high seeds for the ACC, based on their peak clowning ability.

 

I like how people think just because Serena hits harder than some men, she could beat them. Although Serena is a very good mover on wta, she moves like an elephant on steroid. On a second thought no, she moves like a normal elephant compare to men. Do people really think that Serena could beat someone like a santoro just because she hits harder? SERIOUSLY? yes, I would still put my house on the santoro of today beating Serena. Even if he's only allow to slice and chip. Although that's kinda his game. In conclusion, any top 500 men tennis will beat Serena easy. I would say Serena is at the top 1000 range maybe.

 

If she played some guy right now? I think she could beat a guy ranked 1000 or so, but it would be close.

If she trained legitimately and took a real shot on the men's tour consistently? I think 400 would be her absolute max.

But it is all speculation anyway.