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Djok's baseline game looks more solid than Fed's, but Djok has been humiliated by Nadal every time they met on clay, while Fed is the only guy who's been a challenge to Nadal in RG for three years.
 

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I'll go with Federer. He moves better and he's in better condition. I would definitely root for Djokovic, though, and I would expect to see no less than 10 drop shots per set.
 

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I think Djokovic has already surpassed Federer on clay. But we'll see. He will really need to build up his endurance and perhaps modify his game a bit for it to work against Nadal. I wonder if mirroring Nadal's game is the solution on clay?
 

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Federer obvisouly. Federer is not at his best atm, he needs a coach big time. Djoko is on a run atm who says hel be like this forever
 

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I think Djokovic has already surpassed Federer on clay. But we'll see. He will really need to build up his endurance and perhaps modify his game a bit for it to work against Nadal. I wonder if mirroring Nadal's game is the solution on clay?
What makes you think this?:confused:
 

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What makes you think this?:confused:
I just feel like his (Djokovic's) movement is very well adapted/adaptable to clay. Federer first won Wimbledon and then also the hardcourt slams, and it just feels like his success in the FO is more a result of hard work and talent in other respects than an innate feel for the surface.

I feel like Djokovic innately moves well on clay. Grass, however, seems to be an issue. He did quite well in Wimbledon but when he tried to continue the movement he had been doing on clay, he was slipping a lot.
 

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I just feel like his (Djokovic's) movement is very well adapted/adaptable to clay. Federer first won Wimbledon and then also the hardcourt slams, and it just feels like his success in the FO is more a result of hard work and talent in other respects than an innate feel for the surface.

How many sets has roger lost on the way to the final since 2004?
 

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I just feel like his (Djokovic's) movement is very well adapted/adaptable to clay. Federer first won Wimbledon and then also the hardcourt slams, and it just feels like his success in the FO is more a result of hard work and talent in other respects than an innate feel for the surface.

How many sets has roger lost on the way to the final since 2004?
I don't know and I don't care. I just gave an opinion, which may be ill informed, but I'm not going to waste time thinking about sets lost and such. Roger simply hasn't produced the same level of success at RG as at the other slams. This is something undeniable. He's reached many semifinals/finals in the other three slams and won many of them, whereas he's only gotten to two RG finals and lost both (and it wasn't even close).

Now, I'm not going to compare Novak to Roger at the moment, as the difference between their accomplishments thus far is vast, but I would just point out that Novak has reached semis already at all 4 tournaments, 2 finals, and won one of the finals. He will always remain best at hardcourt - I am sure of that - but the fact that he already reached at age 20 both the FO and Wimbledon semis (and fell to Nadal in FO and was worn out/injured at Wimbledon when he retired) suggests that he is perhaps more innately versatile across the surfaces than Roger.
 

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Uhm, you the thread is a bit precocious.
 

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Let the dead king recover from that illness and he'll spank the arrogant brat again :devil:
 

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It's hard to say. Both are great players on clay as well as great movers on the surface. Roger is very at home sliding but Novak is also equally adept and the clay only enhances his retrieval capability because of his tendency to slide. I think I have to give the slight edge to Novak at the moment simply because he is playing the more solid and consistent tennis which is rewarded on clay.
 

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I don't know and I don't care. I just gave an opinion, which may be ill informed, but I'm not going to waste time thinking about sets lost and such. Roger simply hasn't produced the same level of success at RG as at the other slams. This is something undeniable. He's reached many semifinals/finals in the other three slams and won many of them, whereas he's only gotten to two RG finals and lost both (and it wasn't even close).

Now, I'm not going to compare Novak to Roger at the moment, as the difference between their accomplishments thus far is vast, but I would just point out that Novak has reached semis already at all 4 tournaments, 2 finals, and won one of the finals. He will always remain best at hardcourt - I am sure of that - but the fact that he already reached at age 20 both the FO and Wimbledon semis (and fell to Nadal in FO and was worn out/injured at Wimbledon when he retired) suggests that he is perhaps more innately versatile across the surfaces than Roger.
He never dropped a set. When you sya the final is not even close you cleary do nt look at stats. In 2007 he lost each set by one breka only. However he had 17 break points and converted one. His first serve was at 53% along with 69 unforced errors. Should he win one more break point serve 60%and above and half the unforced errors he will win
 

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now i know this thread wants to speculate the chances, but i think it implies the downfall of Rafa. i mean the 81 clay streak is not the result of some lucky draws or days.

now answering the question, federer. he DID grow up on clay and has been consistently the second best player on clay. it took perhaps the best clay courter of all time to stop roger 3 times at FO.

i don't know much about nole's skills on clay since i don't get to watch any matches played on clay in australia. so we'll have to see once the clay season starts.
 

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If 100% healthy, Federer would beat Faker.
C'mon last year at RG the Faker got challenger draw and that's why he has come to the semis.
I would love him to draw some unseeded clay court specialist in the first two rounds, and you will see in fact how average he is on clay.
 

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Djok's baseline game looks more solid than Fed's, but Djok has been humiliated by Nadal every time they met on clay, while Fed is the only guy who's been a challenge to Nadal in RG for three years.
Hard question...I would say Roger(he is afterall No.1) for now but in 1-2 years Djoker.Sadly Nadal could destroy them both:sad:
 

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ATM, I would have to say Novak. This is because of his level and Federer's of course. Federer is making a ton of UE, and his ground strokes are dropping so short. That will not do him any favors on clay. Also, Federer *is* a great retriever, but that's not what wins him matches on clay. It's his weapons. Degrade those by a notch, and he's not half the clay court player he was at his peak. I definitely don't see Federer making the FO final this year, but it *could* happens if he sneaks into the semis and beats Novak there. Whoever plays better on the day would take this match...
 
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