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Who is more talented?

  • G. Dimitrov

    Votes: 29 28.2%
  • R. Nadal.

    Votes: 74 71.8%
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I mean in terms of Tennis talent, excluding physical department in which Nadal leads by miles.
 

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Nadal by miles. You can't win 14 slams with physical condition and mental toughness. Period.
 

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What do you mean by tennis talent? Unlike chess, tennis is physical sport and physical department is the big part of the tennis game so you cannot exclude it.
 

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What do you mean by tennis talent? Unlike chess, tennis is physical sport and physical department is the big part of the tennis game so you cannot exclude it.
:facepalm: that I have to explain that.
Tennis talent: groundstrokes (FH, BH, serve, volley), tennis style

Everything in the physical department (muscles, stamina etc.) and everything in the mental department (tactics, behavior on court etc.) just do not belong here.
 

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What do you mean by tennis talent? Unlike chess, tennis is physical sport and physical department is the big part of the tennis game so you cannot exclude it.
Yeah exactly, always baffles me when I read that (exluding physicality).

Also Dimitrov is physically one of the best players these days, his athleticism is outstanding.


:facepalm: that I have to explain that.
Tennis talent: groundstrokes (FH, BH, serve, volley), tennis style

Everything in the physical department (muscles, stamina etc.) and everything in the mental department (tactics, behavior on court etc.) just do not belong here.
Technique on your strokes =/= talent. Technique is significantly influenced by your coach.
 

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Technique on your strokes =/= talent. Technique is significantly influenced by your coach.
Were did I state that the technique aspect is any important here?
another :facepalm:
another smartass
 

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Who could possibly vote Dimitrov?

Nadal's FH, just watch it. You think anyone with some biceps and a long swing can hit that shot with that precision and that raquet speed and doing it on the run, sometimes on very hardhit shots from the opponent?

Please...

Dimitrov dont even got the talent to produce a great offensive weapon.
 
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I realize there is a lot of hate for Nadal around here, but this shouldn't even be asked. Of course some of the Nadal hate is going to blind people.

There should really be 0 votes for Dimitrov, but alas this is MTF.
 

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Dimitrov by a mile, Nadal won it all because of his hard work, physical abilities and pushing-style, but it has nothing to "talent"
 

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You didn't even had to use a extreme talented player like Dimitrov in your poll. Most of the OHBH players are more talented than Nadal, they have the talented to play with one hand, while Nadal has the talent to moonball and grind with two (and also the forehand).

Philipp Kohlschreiber and Mikhail Youzhny are more talented than Nadal. :shrug:
 

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Forehand: Nadal
Backhand: Dimi
Serve: Dimi
Footwork: Dimi
Mental: Nadal
Net: Dimi
Slice: Dimi
Dropshot: Dimi
Stamina: Nadal
Speed: Nadal

This is my opinion, so dont judge people too hard who votes Dimi, as I can see the logic in that. Nadal is a hardworker, not everyone dedicates his entire life to tennis.
 

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Forehand: Nadal
Backhand: Dimi
Serve: Dimi
Footwork: Dimi
Mental: Nadal
Net: Dimi
Slice: Dimi
Dropshot: Dimi
Stamina: Nadal
Speed: Nadal

This is my opinion, so dont judge people too hard who votes Dimi, as I can see the logic in that. Nadal is a hardworker, not everyone dedicates his entire life to tennis.
:spit: Nadal's top spin BH is clearly superior.


You also left out tons of stuff like point construction, defense, passing shots etc.
 

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Forehand: Nadal
Backhand: Dimi
Serve: Dimi
Footwork: Dimi
Mental: Nadal
Net: Dimi
Slice: Dimi
Dropshot: Dimi
Stamina: Nadal
Speed: Nadal

This is my opinion, so dont judge people too hard who votes Dimi, as I can see the logic in that. Nadal is a hardworker, not everyone dedicates his entire life to tennis.
Nah, Grigor is faster, but Rafa has the better movement and footwork.

Federer is faster than Nadal too.
 

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:spit: Nadal's top spin BH is clearly superior.


You also left out tons of stuff like point construction, defense, passing shots etc.
Thats your opinion and I respect that, but its far from clear. Nadal does nothing and I mean absolutely nothing special with his backhand, yes he hits one BH DTL winner when he feels hopeless, but thats a rare sight. Most of the time, he's simply grinding.
 
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