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Tough Q as Zverev has a masters there but i say probably Tsitsipas
 
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Interesting question. I think it's close but I'd give an edge to Sascha who has 5 titles on clay including 2 masters.
 

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But I not about titles here! I about game.

You can win RG and be still shit on clay like Djokovic, Serena and Sharapova!
Uhm... you asked who's better on clay, hence I said Zverev because he won more on that surface than Tsitsipas, resulting in him having 5 titles on clay. If you play well you win titles. Not rocket science.
 

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Why do this? I mean what do you get out of this - your posts get pointed out as trolling left and right and you just keep going - even downgrading your own trolling quality.
Example Zeballos was very great on clay but had only 1F and Title on clay!

Titles is not indicator yet of level how great you are on surface! No really!

Djokovic and Serena is shit on clay!
 

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Uhm... you asked who's better on clay, hence I said Zverev because he won more on that surface than Tsitsipas, resulting in him having 5 titles on clay. If you play well you win titles. Not rocket science.
Then Djokovic is better on clay than peak Cuevas or Robredo??????
 

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But I not about titles here! I about game.

You can win RG and be still shit on clay like Djokovic, Serena and Sharapova!
oh come on. They might not have a traditional clay game but they've translated their games to the win on the surface in various ways. You can't say they are terrible on the surface, perhaps relative to some other surfaces they are not as good or as natural (won't discuss WTA though on here).

For this question Zverev has the better credentials, even if I prefer Tsitsipas's playstyle on clay moreso than Zverev's in general. Zverev's level at Roland Garros not as impressive though in general (but sample size still small).
 

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oh come on. They might not have a traditional clay game but they've translated their games to the win on the surface in various ways. You can't say they are terrible on the surface, perhaps relative to some other surfaces they are not as good or as natural (won't discuss WTA though on here).

For this question Zverev has the better credentials, even if I prefer Tsitsipas's playstyle on clay moreso than Zverev's in general. Zverev's level at Roland Garros not as impressive though in general (but sample size still small).
OK!

But I still think Tsitsipas have more chances to beat Nadal on RG than Zverev.
 

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The only way that Djokovic, Serena and Sharapova are/were "shit" on clay is if we compare them to their best surfaces. All three, when playing near to their peak levels, were able to win big titles on all surfaces quite comfortably. Sure they weren't clay specialists, but their general level was high enough that they didn't need to be in order to be competitive on the surface.

Djokovic especially was genuinely competitive against Nadal, the clay GOAT. If you take Nadal out of the equation he (and probably Federer too) would have about five French Opens.
 
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But WHY then I can't assosiate Djokovic with clay... Strange(
the last few meetings aside, Djokovic has been one of the few players to consistently provide a challenge to Nadal, beating him multiple times. He has been less impressive in recent times, though still tends to beat most players not named Nadal (or Thiem).
 

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the last few meetings aside, Djokovic has been one of the few players to consistently provide a challenge to Nadal, beating him multiple times. He has been less impressive in recent times, though still tends to beat most players not named Nadal (or Thiem).
Why then Novak can't beat Thiem now? 2-7 last 9 meetings there?
 
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