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Which of the 4 GSs is the hardest to win?

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Which Grand Slam is the HARDEST to Win?

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#1 ·
AO is very tough cuz it's played on a neutral surface where almost everyone is good at and takes place in the beginning of the year where everyone is 100% fresh and ready to go

FO is tough cuz it's arguably the most physically demanding of all 4, but at the same time s lot less prone to upsets (esp to those who are good on clay) cuz players have more time to figure things out and serves aren't as powerful or as big of a weapon

Wimbledon is played on a rare surface nowadays that is very difficult to master and usually takes players years of experience to get good on it and historically had the most upsets where a good serve also gives players a huge advantage, although the courts have been greatly slowed down over the years

And US Open is tough because it's the last of the 4 at which point the top players feel most tired and thus has been won the most by different players over the years
 
#2 · (Edited)
Its between 2 hardcourts, either AO or USO.

One of main reasons is because its hardcourt, everyone knows how to play on it. 99.99% of players are developed on this surface so everyone is a specialist. Hardcourt tournaments are less likely be skewed over by rankings and specialists, you get what you deserve.

To add on top:

AO- Early into the season after a long break, everyone is fresh as a daisy and less likely top players being absent due to injury.
USO- Curse and survival of the fittest after a long season.

1. USO/AO
3. W
4. FO
 
#3 ·
It should be between Wimbledon and the USO

Wimbledon: the most prestigious one, the highest prize money after USO (at least historically) and inside Europe where majority of elite players are home. Given the fact that grass is the less used surface on the tour, it takes more time for players to reach proficiency and this mixture of high competitiveness and high difficulty makes it harder to win.

USO: it´s the end of the season and players should be physically and psychically strong to remain mentally stable and healthy enough to go all the way, it usually has a high rate of upsets and it has the highest prize money of all slams.
 
#5 ·
The answer is: it depends on whether you are the favourite or an outsider.
If you are better than the other players, then Roland Garrod is the easiest to win, because the margin is bigger on clay than on the other surfaces. Matches on HC and grass are much more often decided by a just a few points, therefore an upset is more likely. On the other hand, for exactly the same reason, Roland Garros is the most difficult to win if you are not the best player. And then, two more points to consider: 1) homogenization has reduced that difference in the past 15 years, and 2) it seems that fewer and fewer players really care about devoloping a good grass game, which obviously makes it easier for the few remaining ones to win Wimbledon.
 
#9 ·
The answer is US Open historically. But after Djokovics retirement it should be Wimbledon.

Just for the fact that you get to play grass 1 out of every 12 months and 90% of the tour are not grass court players.
 
#11 · (Edited)
Wimbledon is the most challenging (that's perhaps why its prestige is still the highest out of the 4) major to win.

There's not a lot of grass court tournaments on the tour. Not even a Masters 1000 yet. Historically, held only 2 weeks after Roland Garros. Now, it's 3 weeks. This is still not enough time for the vast majority of players to make the necessary adjustments to their game.

Movement on this surface adds to the challenge. It took even Sampras 2-3 years to get used to the conditions at the time.
 
#61 · (Edited)
Wimbledon is the most challenging (that's perhaps why its prestige is still the highest out of the 4) major to win.

There's not a lot of grass court tournaments on the tour. Not even a Masters 1000 yet. Historically, held only 2 weeks after Roland Garros. Now, it's 3 weeks. This is still not enough time for the vast majority of players to make the necessary adjustments to their game.

Movement on this surface adds to the challenge. It took even Sampras 2-3 years to get used to the conditions at the time.
And 5 years to bag a title for both him & Fed while 4 years for Borg.

The only Grass ‘prodigy’ to master in under 3 years was Becker as not only was his game & physique tailored for it, iinm in Germany, there r more Grass court facilities than in most other Euro countries so perhaps more exposure to it.
 
#17 ·
I think USO. First, you need to stay healthy all year just to make it there in prime shape.

Then, you need to play on a surface where everyone is proficient on. Also, the USO has the most home players (I believe, could be wrong with the AO) and of course that home advantage can lead to some playing above their usual level (such as Shelton this year) to get them over the line.

I think once Djokovic is retired, we will see a large variety of winners over the next 10 years, as opposed to something like FO or Wimbledon where only a select few are very good on the surface.
 
#21 ·
For any player, any GS can be the easiest one year and the hardest another.

For Edberg, US Open 1992 was very hard to cite a single old example.

For Federer AO 2017 was really very hard, but Wimbledon 2017 was easy.
AO 2006 was complicated, but the same year he flew past the US Open.

For Nadal, his 2 AOs were very hard, but many of his RGs were very easy, like US 2017 quite easy.

I'm mentionnig nothing concerning Djokovic because I'm going to have the whole Ajde Militia on my ass
immediately, I'm going to be reported to moderation. 😅
 
#25 ·
The US Open. At least, the Australian Open has better conditions (doesn't smell like excess weed, piss, etc.). The US Open was once my favorite, but after the way they've been running it in the past few seasons, I'd have to go with AO most likely even though the result is NID most of the time as long as Djokovic is playing hehe.
 
#29 ·
probs the OZ open going fwd. recently southern australia had almost 40 degrees in spring...
 
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#32 ·
As you seem to me to be a man of taste, you must have enjoyed the final this year with the little guy who was 4-2 W/L until this year. :D

Of course, you can logically object to me that the weak era continues 😌
Although Djokovic lost, I did enjoy very much in the final game. His first serve was horrible, that's the main reason why he lost, otherwise he would likely win 3:0. But it's just speculation of mine and doesn't diminish Alcaraz's win at all. 100% deserved of incredibly talented 20 years old guy. I am very impressed and wish him the best.
 
#34 ·
when main rivals were drunk Safin
Thank you for reminding us of the great Marat. :love:

your goat grass thing gave him a good ending at Wimbledon, rhalala this weak era which is everywhere.. even where we don't see it :oh:

#55 · Oct 3, 2022

TheLeftyAndFed said:
Safin on HC.
On grass, Kyrgios definitely.
Are you sure? :unsure:

In 2008, during his penultimate season and far from the top, Safin beat Djokovic at Wimbledon, already a solid top 3, who had already played SF Wimbledon 2007 and had just played the Queens final against Nadal.

23-06-2008WimbledonGrassR64
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Marat Safin
Rank 75

d.
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Novak Djokovic (3)
Rank 3
6-4 7-6(3) 6-2

#39 · Jun 18, 2022

del piero said:
Wow Safin on grass 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.next time bring wins in slams against Baghdatis ,Philipousis and other mugs.
Safin plays SF Wimbledon 2008, having beaten Djokovic.
It is his best result at Wimbledon. Before that, best result QF 2001, the reste are 1st, 2nd and 3rd round.:unsure:At the very end of his career, he will stop in 2009

The other SF Wimbledon 2008, is Rainer Schüttler whose best performance in GS is AO finalist... in 2003... and whose history at Wimbledon can be summed up in 12 other participations from 1999 to 2011 in 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds .

I don't understand, we present 2008 as the end of the weak era and these 2 veterans without reference to Wimbledon are doing their best result.... :unsure:


#17 · Aug 11, 2022

Safin is a paradox.

For his 1st GS played at RG 98, even on clay... he is able at 18 years old to beat Agassi (winner 99) and... Kuerten defending champion... (+ W 00-01)
His 2 first matches in GS...
25-05-1998Roland GarrosClayR128W
Image



Marat Safin (Q)
Rank 116

d.
Image



Andre Agassi
Rank 20
5-7 7-5 6-2 3-6 6-2
25-05-1998Roland GarrosClayR64W
Image



Marat Safin (Q)
Rank 116

d.
Image



Gustavo Kuerten (8)
Rank 8
3-6 7-6(5) 3-6 6-1 6-4

Able to lose an AO vs Johansson final in 2002.. or win AO 2005 after the SF we know vs Federer (2005..)

Or to obtain his best result at Wimbledon 2008, with SF, beating Djokovic, 1 year before his retirement.

And before retiring, beating Davydenko... the strong man at the end of 2009 with Shanghai and YEC...


19-10-2009MoscowHard (i)R32
Image



Marat Safin
Rank 76

d.
Image



Nikolay Davydenko (1)
Rank 6
4-6 6-4 6-2
Roger Federer (SUI)
5-7, 6-4, 5-7, 7-66, 9-7 (Safin's last victory over a number 1, Australian Open 2005)

Novak Djokovic (SRB)
6-4, 7-63, 6-2 (Safin's last top 3 win, 2008 Wimbledon Championships)

Nikolay Davydenko (RUS)
4-6, 6-4, 6-2 (Safin's last top 10 win, 2009 Kremlin Cup)
 
#37 ·
Safin was very talented player, but drinking
Thank you for reminding us of the great Marat. :love:

your goat grass thing gave him a good ending at Wimbledon, rhalala this weak era which is everywhere.. even where we don't see it :oh:

#55 · Oct 3, 2022


Are you sure? :unsure:

In 2008, during his penultimate season and far from the top, Safin beat Djokovic at Wimbledon, already a solid top 3, who had already played SF Wimbledon 2007 and had just played the Queens final against Nadal.

23-06-2008WimbledonGrassR64
Image


Marat Safin
Rank 75

d.
Image


Novak Djokovic (3)
Rank 3
6-4 7-6(3) 6-2

#39 · Jun 18, 2022


Safin plays SF Wimbledon 2008, having beaten Djokovic.
It is his best result at Wimbledon. Before that, best result QF 2001, the reste are 1st, 2nd and 3rd round.:unsure:At the very end of his career, he will stop in 2009

The other SF Wimbledon 2008, is Rainer Schüttler whose best performance in GS is AO finalist... in 2003... and whose history at Wimbledon can be summed up in 12 other participations from 1999 to 2011 in 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds .

I don't understand, we present 2008 as the end of the weak era and these 2 veterans without reference to Wimbledon are doing their best result.... :unsure:


#17 · Aug 11, 2022

Safin is a paradox.

For his 1st GS played at RG 98, even on clay... he is able at 18 years old to beat Agassi (winner 99) and... Kuerten defending champion... (+ W 00-01)
His 2 first matches in GS...
25-05-1998Roland GarrosClayR128W
Image



Marat Safin (Q)
Rank 116

d.
Image



Andre Agassi
Rank 20
5-7 7-5 6-2 3-6 6-2

25-05-1998Roland GarrosClayR64W
Image



Marat Safin (Q)
Rank 116

d.
Image



Gustavo Kuerten (8)
Rank 8
3-6 7-6(5) 3-6 6-1 6-4

Able to lose an AO vs Johansson final in 2002.. or win AO 2005 after the SF we know vs Federer (2005..)

Or to obtain his best result at Wimbledon 2008, with SF, beating Djokovic, 1 year before his retirement.

And before retiring, beating Davydenko... the strong man at the end of 2009 with Shanghai and YEC...


19-10-2009MoscowHard (i)R32
Image



Marat Safin
Rank 76

d.
Image



Nikolay Davydenko (1)
Rank 6
4-6 6-4 6-2
Roger Federer (SUI)
5-7, 6-4, 5-7, 7-66, 9-7 (Safin's last victory over a number 1, Australian Open 2005)

Novak Djokovic (SRB)
6-4, 7-63, 6-2 (Safin's last top 3 win, 2008 Wimbledon Championships)

Nikolay Davydenko (RUS)
4-6, 6-4, 6-2 (Safin's last top 10 win, 2009 Kremlin Cup)
Safin
Thank you for reminding us of the great Marat. :love:

your goat grass thing gave him a good ending at Wimbledon, rhalala this weak era which is everywhere.. even where we don't see it :oh:

#55 · Oct 3, 2022


Are you sure? :unsure:

In 2008, during his penultimate season and far from the top, Safin beat Djokovic at Wimbledon, already a solid top 3, who had already played SF Wimbledon 2007 and had just played the Queens final against Nadal.

23-06-2008WimbledonGrassR64
Image


Marat Safin
Rank 75

d.
Image


Novak Djokovic (3)
Rank 3
6-4 7-6(3) 6-2

#39 · Jun 18, 2022


Safin plays SF Wimbledon 2008, having beaten Djokovic.
It is his best result at Wimbledon. Before that, best result QF 2001, the reste are 1st, 2nd and 3rd round.:unsure:At the very end of his career, he will stop in 2009

The other SF Wimbledon 2008, is Rainer Schüttler whose best performance in GS is AO finalist... in 2003... and whose history at Wimbledon can be summed up in 12 other participations from 1999 to 2011 in 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds .

I don't understand, we present 2008 as the end of the weak era and these 2 veterans without reference to Wimbledon are doing their best result.... :unsure:


#17 · Aug 11, 2022

Safin is a paradox.

For his 1st GS played at RG 98, even on clay... he is able at 18 years old to beat Agassi (winner 99) and... Kuerten defending champion... (+ W 00-01)
His 2 first matches in GS...
25-05-1998Roland GarrosClayR128W
Image



Marat Safin (Q)
Rank 116

d.
Image



Andre Agassi
Rank 20
5-7 7-5 6-2 3-6 6-2

25-05-1998Roland GarrosClayR64W
Image



Marat Safin (Q)
Rank 116

d.
Image



Gustavo Kuerten (8)
Rank 8
3-6 7-6(5) 3-6 6-1 6-4

Able to lose an AO vs Johansson final in 2002.. or win AO 2005 after the SF we know vs Federer (2005..)

Or to obtain his best result at Wimbledon 2008, with SF, beating Djokovic, 1 year before his retirement.

And before retiring, beating Davydenko... the strong man at the end of 2009 with Shanghai and YEC...


19-10-2009MoscowHard (i)R32
Image



Marat Safin
Rank 76

d.
Image



Nikolay Davydenko (1)
Rank 6
4-6 6-4 6-2
Roger Federer (SUI)
5-7, 6-4, 5-7, 7-66, 9-7 (Safin's last victory over a number 1, Australian Open 2005)

Novak Djokovic (SRB)
6-4, 7-63, 6-2 (Safin's last top 3 win, 2008 Wimbledon Championships)

Nikolay Davydenko (RUS)
4-6, 6-4, 6-2 (Safin's last top 10 win, 2009 Kremlin Cup)
Safin was really talented player, but unfortunately didn't take tennis seriously. Drinking and partying too much. Too bad we didn't see more of him.


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#35 ·
The real answer is that it depends on how healthy you are and how tough your draw is.

AO should in theory be the toughest to win at the moment seeing as most of the tour is healthy for the year's first slam and a lot of players have games that are best suited for HC.

USO tends to be tough because it happens towards of the end of the season and a lot of guys are pretty beat up physically by then. Voted this because no one has won more than 5 of these.
 
#36 ·
clown Nalbandian
Ohoho, I see that David amuses you too :love:

, indeed, he was irregular, but he gave Federer a lot of trouble in his debut, he was still leading 5-0 at the US Open 2003.

but as he didn't want anyone to be jealous, he waited until the end of weak era and the start of strong era to explain the exact price to the other 2 big3s too with fine expertise. 😌

A generous man to be honest.


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David Nalbandian
Rank 25

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Roger Federer (1)
Rank 1
1-6 6-3 6-3 StatsH2H
15-10-2007Madrid MastersHard (i)SFW
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David Nalbandian
Rank 25

d.
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Novak Djokovic (3)
Rank 3
6-4 7-6(4) StatsH2H
15-10-2007Madrid MastersHard (i)QFW
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David Nalbandian
Rank 25

d.
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Rafael Nadal (2)
Rank 2
6-1 6-2 StatsH2H
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David Nalbandian


d.
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Juan Martin Del Potro (WC)
Rank 53
6-2 6-4 StatsH2H
15-10-2007Madrid MastersHard (i)R32W
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David Nalbandian
Rank 25

d.
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Tomas Berdych (9)
Rank 11
4-6 6-4 7-6(2) StatsH2H
15-10-2007Madrid MastersHard (i)R64W
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David Nalbandian
Rank 25

d.
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Arnaud Clement
Rank 40
5-7 6-2 6-4 StatsH2H

In case there was any doubt, he explained the same thing to Bercy, to Federer (R16 6-4 7-6) and Nadal (6-4 6-0) :D

Djokovic must have been busy elsewhere, I guess..
28-10-2007Paris MastersHard (i)R32L
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Fabrice Santoro
Rank 39

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Novak Djokovic (3)
Rank 3
6-3 6-2
 
#38 ·
I agree with everyone saying it depends and varies based on each player's best surface; but the question is aimed towards the avg top 50 or top 100 player who's more or less equally good on all surfaces from a statistics standpoint, like Dimitrov, Rublev and many others.

In my opinion it's def NOT the US Open, as it seems the easiest of all 4 to win because all lower ranked players take advantage of the favorites bring tired and are extra motivated for it being the last Slam of the year.

It's no surprise that in the last 20 years it's been won the most by a variety of different players compared to the other 3.

And if Rafa didn't exist or wasn't as dominant on clay as he was then there would be a lot more different winners there as well.

Imo it's gotta be either the AO or Wimbledon, but if I had to choose one I'd say Wimbledon just cuz grass is too rare of a surface nowadays that it's really hard to master it for most/the avg player and go all the way. AO at least it's played on a neutral surface which that in of itself makes it harder for a player to have a big edge over another assuming they're in the same tier.
 
#39 ·
Grass is a joke. It's senseless to develop yourself as a grass courter since there's hardly any grass tournaments. You are either gifted at the surface or you arnt. AO is the hardest to win, because everyone is fresh and everyone can play on hard court