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I mean we can all say that pretty much most of them are "good humans" in general and not that bad.

But as we all know people are very complex and have their failures and dark side.
I would like to take us on a journey to discover the deep impression we have of players who we think are the real good humans or the highest in that regard and who are the strongest ones morally spoken or in managing their life in a good way in general. For example there are people who are the best in that but very bad towards certain people or family.

Of course everyone one of us looks a bit different on what is defined good and what not and we value it differently but it does not matter. Write what you think. In general there is a certain objective look on it if you have been proper socialised.

Let me start by throwing random names in:
Everything I write is my personal impression and interpretation of course. Nothing has to be true.

Good human beings

Jim Courier (+++)
- Boy, what a good man he is. (to quote his usual speaking pattern) Friendly, funny, knows his stuff. I bet he is a well disciplined organised guy, nice to his family and kids, dedicated to his job and friendly to everyone. I met him once and what a cool person he is !

Mary Carillo (+++) - Similar to Jim. WHAT A FRIENDLY woman. Nice personality.

Annabel Croft (+++) - Top class, classy lady, and EXTREMELY friendly. So kind. Down to earth as pretty much all of these mentioned before.

Kevin Anderson (+++) - Very sure of him that he is one of the best examples of a good person / human being. Nice, friendly and hard worker.

David Ferrer (++) - Simply love him. I could imagine him shouting at his wife or other close people sometimes with his smoky subtile voice but otherwise he is "sweet". Down to earth, hard worker, has a certain aggression but knows to let it out on the court, not off the court.

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Stan Wawrinka (o) - There is something with him that bothers me. Divorced, little daughter, got in to a relationship with a much younger girl, they broke up as well. His emotional stuff "crying", on court energy. To me in general he is okay and a cool dude but my impression of him is not that good when it comes to private relations. I see there something in him which cant be seen from the outside that is not a good human thing, but a bit twisty and unprecedented. We do not have the full image that is shown in public. And I am very sure that I am right on this. Not that good - human wise - as he is selling himself to be.

Pete Sampras (o) - He is okay. Has pretty much zero skill except for tennis in real life and loves to do nothing nowadays as it seems, just relaxing, managing his kids and family. An introvert which I do not consider good in many departments but not bad either when it comes to being a good person. But from what I have seen from him he is definitely not an angel either.

Mats Wilander (o) - Could have ended up down there as well. Got lucky. Because I do not consider him good either. He is professional but what he really thinks something will forever stay behind the curtain. Cheated with a drug on court, human intelligent wise he is not top notch, pretty average. Could be very satisfied with his career on court and as an expert. Because there are and were clearly better guys out there. But I still like him somehow.

Juan Martin Del Potro (o) - Not that innocent and good as you might think first. Nope. We all saw what he is ready to do in order to win. He enjoys his good reputation due to his easy going calm demeanor and friendly voice. But he is an emotional dude who has his downsides and not cool morality.

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Not so good

Jimmy Connors (--)
Let's be honest. Everybody knows what kind of a jerk he was. Was Sharapova's coach only for a few months or so. Didnt work personality wise as well I guess. Miserable and envyous. But of course I love his energy and commitment. What a guy on the court. Off the court, not a man I would like to have as a family member.

John McEnroe (--) He got better I would say. But the fact is I do not see how I could place him above this category and give him a plus. He still has it in him, not a good human if you ask me. When he is not that host and is his real self, he will deal as he did all these years on the court. He is an aggressive dude and attacks you. In reality that is not funny.

Boris Becker (-) - Not the brightest guy in terms of life management. He got himself tricked and robbed but he also did injustice/crime to others and made himself look bad and not a rightoeus person in different areas. Family, love, finance and so on. He is not that down-to-earth. He struggles personality-wise in these areas. Experienced this in a direct encounter with him as well. Therefore in my list he is rather low. I respect him of course, but sometimes it is not easy, especially not as a full package human being.

Bjorn Borg (-) - Bjorn Borg does not seem very intelligent. He struggles in many departments in life. I think that he is not even a good businessman, nor a good emotional or lets say emphatic person who understands social relations. Therefore lacks in family management. And not a hard worker or disciplined as players nowadays. There is a reason he stopped at 26. He was mentally drained and done. Lost interest and focus. Got weak. Enjoyed life, other stuff, then this "job". Therefore outside tennis my impression is not that impressive of him. I saw trouble.

Andre Agassi (-) - Drug stuff, lying, had a tough past, hate what he did, emotional dude who is not the best example for a good human being but at least he is doing good witch charity for others and his work. I guess so. And a man who conquered Steffi Graf's heart must have qualities. But maybe he only shows his best to her, not to others. Andre at least was not really good. I can read these emotional type of personalities very well. They are tricky twisted minds. Often not healthy and fake.

Ilie Nastase (--) - Lippy, open mouth. Likes to trash-talk. Emotional outbursts. Could be funny and annoying. But likely not the type of person you would place as a good human being.

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This is just the start. But I do not have the time to write on every person something. I will add them as well you can share your opinions on certain (former) players or what your positive and negative example would be.
 
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Kevin Anderson (+++) - Very sure of him that he is one of the best examples of a good person / human being. Nice, friendly and hard worker.
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You definitely have me on board. Let's grow.
 
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This thread might open Pandora's box...but it's a nice change of pace I guess.

Courier and Croft - Agreed, both always quite professional, pleasant, and down to earth. Carillo though...she's had a few questionable moments over the years. I always preferred Mary Joe Fernandez.

Anderson - Definitely agree, a hard worker and a good sportsman. I will say his frequent c'mons can sometimes be a bit much, but it's hard to really hold that against him.

Ferrer - This one I'm not sure of. Ever since he shoved that line judge I've always been a bit wary of him.

Wawrinka - A bit of an enigma for sure, but he does always seem a little bit too...into himself.

Surprised you put Borg in the "not so good" category, his mild mannerisms seem a bit out of place with the other polarizing personalities. And Nastase should be in a tier of his own, he's truly terrible.

Anyway I'll throw in a couple random ones too:

Goffin (++) - Quiet, modest, hard-working, and a good sportsman. Seems to stay out of trouble and just focuses on making the best of what he's got. Some might call him meek but I can admire his quiet confidence.

Verdasco (--) - Always seemed a bit arrogant and more interested in building his muscles than improving his game. He was very rude to a ball boy during one of the Asian swing tournaments too.
 

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Entertaining post. Funny you seem to consider emotionality as The Mother of All Wrongs...
 

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Agassi is the most friendly pro I've ever heard of, along with Rafa.
He hated tennis but he loved people.
And his school is extraordinary, and he lives for it.
Even his one mistake - crystal meth - he actually confessed to the public (in his Open book) despite the ATP hiding it perfectly.
 

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I couldn't think of mine, so reordered yours.

Good human beings

Kevin Anderson (+++++) -
Very sure of him that he is one of the best examples of a good person / human being. Nice, friendly and hard worker. :)

Pete Sampras (+++) Just because I loved his introvertism, and that he walked away from it all. Coming back with a beer belly like Agassi is a no-no. :giggle:

Andre Agassi (+) - And a man who conquered Steffi Graf's heart must have good qualities. :devilish:

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Not so good

Mary Carillo (---)
- WHAT AN AWFUL woman. Questionable personality to say the least. :poop:

Martina Navratilova (-) - Seems to have anger management issues in old age. :mad:
 

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"which player is a good human being...?".
strange question to be asked on a sports forum.
pretty much in line with "who has the most stylish bandana and the outfit?" question.
What is the definition of a "good human being"?
How do we know if some athlete really is one? Why do we care!?
as all we're privy to is their PR persona and tidbits leaked by their PR departments. We don't really know them as "human beings". BTW - most serial killers were described by their neighbors as "nice, quiet and very polite people".

I pick my plumbers and handyman based on their skill - I'm not interested in anything else.
 

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Agassi really did come across as a whiny brat in Open. Has always struck me as rather entitled. That being said, it’s an outstanding book that I’d recommend to anyone.
 
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