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Where do you all get detailed tennis news? In spite of the popularity of tennis around the world, it's often the case that there isn't that much detailed info on tennis on traditional sites or in traditional publications for sports. Tennis itself doesn't have that many dedicated sites with frequently updated and in depth material either.

How many of you primarily come here or to TTW or Reddit for news and info? Do you also listen to tennis podcasts like The Tennis Podcast, check out youtube shows like Gil Gross' show, magazines like Tennis Magazine and its equivalents around the world, Ubaldo's site, Punto De Break, Tennis.com, L'Equipe, Marca, ATP etc?

I'd be curious how many of you use forums to make up for the lack of widespread deeper coverage of tennis. It's not so easy for example to even find detailed write ups of matches outside of the biggest events. Interviews are often not widely disseminated. Discussion shows which exist all over the world for other sports on major networks can barely be found for tennis.
 

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Nice topic. I used to read a lot more before, and listen to podcasts, expert analysis etc, but with work burdening me, it's mostly few selected sources, occasional in deep read, and twitter for quick links on an ongoing topic. Ofc MTF is the source of all knowlegde, I have opened many chakras and horizons here.
 

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In my case it's different sources: sports sites, tennis sites, forums, etc.

But @tribalfusion I remember a thread of yours with the list of tennis podcasts, sites, news sources which you set up last year - was a great source of information for people here - maybe you'd want to bump it?
 

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Nice topic. I used to read a lot more before, and listen to podcasts, expert analysis etc, but with work burdening me, it's mostly few selected sources, occasional in deep read, and twitter for quick links on an ongoing topic. Ofc MTF is the source of all knowlegde, I have opened many chakras and horizons here.
I know what you mean about selected sources too and MTF has definitely opened (and closed) many chakras as well :) What sources do you typically use and do you rely on forums to provide detailed info as well?
 

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In my case it's different sources: sports sites, tennis sites, forums, etc.

But @tribalfusion I remember a thread of yours with the list of tennis podcasts, sites, news sources which you set up last year - was a great source of information for people here - maybe you'd want to bump it?
That's a good idea though I have added (and subtracted!) from it since then :) I'll see if I can find that. Do you also find that the forums do more of the work which would be done by professional media in other sports but which isn't usually done in tennis?

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Here was that discussion and first post:

What are your favorites (and if you have some in other languages please post, especially French, Spanish, Italian or German)? I will start with podcasts and continue with other media, sites, videos etc below. I'd like to see where you all get info and analysis on tennis besides the forum.

PODCASTS:

I listen most to The Tennis Podcast from the Telegraph with Law and Whitaker but I'll list the others in case anyone is interested (some of these are quite infrequent so it's not a heavy load and some are definitely not great but I take what I can get with tennis):

The Tennis Podcast (Law and Whitaker)
The ATP podcast
Tennis Legends (Eurosport with McEnroe, Becker and Wilander)
Beyond the Baseline (Wertheim)
The Racquet (Rennae Stubbs)
Tennis Now
The First Serve (from Australia)
The Mini-Break
No Challenges Remaining (Rothenberg)
Under Review with Craig Shapiro
The Tennis Addict
The Tennis Abstract (Carl Bialik & Jeff Sackmann)
The Main Draw
The Body Serve
Thirty Love (Carl Bialik)
KickServeRadio
Ace (Canada)
Great Shot Podcast
Air Open (French)
Tennis Magazin Podcast (in German)
Aufschlag Becker (Boris and in German)
L'Angolo di Flavia (Pennetta for Eurosport and in Italian)
La Casa del Tenis (in Spanish)
Talk Tennis (Tennis Warehouse)
Tennis Circus (in Italian)
Tennis with an Accent
Off Court Noise
Game Set and Match (New Zealand)
ToroLupo (Italy)


WEBSITES/MAGAZINES:

The ATP site
Marca (in Spanish)
Punto de Break (in Spanish)
L'Equipe (in French)
Tennis.com
SI.com
Espn.com
Tennis Abstract
Tennis Now
Ubitennis (in Italian)
We Love Tennis (French)
Tennis Magazin (German)

I look at other sites and at things like the NYT, Le Monde, El Pais, Repubblica, BBC or the Guardian for tennis now and then but I can't say much of the generalist tennis coverage rises above passable (Rafael Plaza for El Espanol is unusually good especially when it comes to Nadal).

VIDEO/YOUTUBE/TV:

I haven't found much of note beyond what I see from Eurosport or the Tennis Channel (some people seem to like Gil Gross on YouTube). I think Italy's SuperTennis is the only other dedicated tennis broadcaster on TV but I'd love to hear I am incorrect.

Does anyone know of any dedicated tennis shows which cover tennis on a regular basis or even generalist shows which pay special attention to tennis and which might be available online from any country?


FORUMS:

Besides MTF, where else do you go? Tennis Warehouse? Reddit Tennis? El Foro del Tenis (Spanish)? Tennis Defenders (French)? Somewhere else I left out?

It would be great to make this a sticky and add to it given how poorly served (pun intended) tennis is in the media.

Thanks!!



 

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I get my news from MTF posters, especially Unbiased.
Well the clue is right there in the name: Unbiased.

More seriously, where do you get your information and analysis and do you find that the forums have the effect of mitigating the relative lack of well developed tennis media?
 

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That's a good idea though I have added (and subtracted!) from it since then :) I'll see if I can find that. Do you also find that the forums do more of the work which would be done by professional media in other sports but which isn't usually done in tennis?
Yeah, sort of. I think forums (MTF for example) is a good source of info for all recent news regarding tennis: results, opinions, twitter news, experts quotes, entry lists, draws - all in one place.
One thing that is missing is tennis statistic but we've got Ultimate Tennis Statistics which does it great.
I don't follow a lot of sports that closely but one thing I am sure of is football has massively better coverage by professional sites and dedicated platforms than tennis.
 

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I know what you mean about selected sources too and MTF has definitely opened (and closed) many chakras as well :) What sources do you typically use and do you rely on forums to provide detailed info as well?
Honestly I come here for banter, good laugh, and to feel the overall atmosphere about the certain match/tournament bcs tennis ain't football to be discussed at every corner.

There is a Serbian journalist Nebojša Višković, who is a Novak fan personally, but is very objective when he does his job. He had recently established "Wish&Go" podcast where he has pros as guest. I really loved episode with Novak, they were asking all sensitive questions openly, about diet, views on medicine, mysticism and all that weird stuff. He previously had a column in renowned Serbian magazine. Saša Ozmo as well. As for foreign sources, I liked bleacher report, but not reading it any longer. Tennis channel has very good expert guests, I love when Andy Roddick is on the show, such a frank guy.

Probably subpar to what you guys are immersed into, I'm a lightweight. But as guitarra stated above, bump those sources of yours, would be nice to broaden one's approach.

Edit: Just noticed that you have listed them above. Thanks.
 

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Yeah, sort of. I think forums (MTF for example) is a great source of info for all recent news regarding tennis: results, opinions, twitter news, experts quotes, entry lists, draws - all in one place.
One thing that is missing is tennis statistic but we've got Ultimate Tennis Statistics which does it great.
I don't follow a lot of sports that closely but one thing I am sure of is football has massively better coverage by professional sites and dedicated platforms than tennis.
Yea Ultimate Tennis Statistics is great. Football has so much more available even in just 1 country much less the whole world. In Italy alone you have multiple tv shows with analysis which includes former players, trainers, coaches etc way beyond the whole world for tennis and I am not sure how many actual tv shows actually exist about tennis (beyond showing matches). I think Tennis Channel and Super Tennis are the only 2 dedicated tennis networks (beyond the ATP's own material) and YouTube is still pretty small for tennis too.
 

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In my case I don't really have either much time or motivation nowadays to search for in-depth news and coverage. I try to watch as much Tennis as possible but reading or listening a lot about Tennis doesn't motivate me since I find most of the stuff to be from bad to dismal. Then yes, forums are a bit of agregators where you find in one place some of what is published in the outter world but again it's mostly crap.
 

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Honestly I come here for banter, good laugh, and to feel the overall atmosphere about the certain match/tournament bcs tennis ain't football to be discussed at every corner.

There is a Serbian journalist Nebojša Višković, who is a Novak fan personally, but is very objective when he does his job. He had recently established "Wish&Go" podcast where he has pros as guest. I really loved episode with Novak, they were asking all sensitive questions openly, about diet, views on medicine, mysticism and all that weird stuff. He previously had a column in renowned Serbian magazine. Saša Ozmo as well. As for foreign sources, I liked bleacher report, but not reading it any longer. Tennis channel has very good expert guests, I love when Andy Roddick is on the show, such a frank guy.

Probably subpar to what you guys are immersed into, I'm a lightweight. But as guitarra stated above, bump those sources of yours, would be nice to broaden one's approach.

Thanks! I posted the discussion above and included the initial list for you too. It's always good to know about journalists who are specialized like Nebojša Višković so thanks for that. I unfortunately don't read Serbian but I can at least get a sense by translating his pieces so that's potentially very useful. Rafael Plaza is a similar journalist when it comes to Nadal and sometimes the ATP will use him (he writes for El Espanol otherwise).

What is coverage of tennis like in Serbia? Are there dedicated networks now or dedicated weekly show which discuss it or does it depend on occasional coverage according to the event etc?
 

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Do you make this thread on an annual basis?

 

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In my case I don't really have either much time and motivation nowadays to search for in-depth news and coverage. I try to watch as much Tennis as possible but reading or listening a lot about Tennis don't motivate me since I find most of the stuff to be from bad to dismal. Then yes, forums are a bit of agregators where you find in one place some of what is published in the outter world but again it's mostly crap.
I hear you and I definitely agree that the quality of the materials tends to be on the low side of things, particularly when compared to Football or Basketball etc.
 

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Do you make this thread on an annual basis?

I already posted it above, thanks. And really, would it be such a bad thing to have a constructive thread every now and then like this instead of the 100,000th version of 'Djokovic sux' and 'Nadal luckiest ever'?

How about you participate in the discussion instead of reposting my own thread?
 

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I already posted it above, thanks. And really, would it be such a bad thing to have a constructive thread like this instead of the 100,000th version of Djokovic sux and Nadal can't play?

How about you participate in the discussion instead of reposting my own thread?
Why wouldn't you just bump the thread?

Who would really scour the internet listening to podcasts of people talking about tennis and articles written about people talking about tennis? Most journalism relating to tennis is a joke, so what's the point?

Let's be honest, you're just trying to compare tennis to some kind of area of science where academics need to keep on top of their subject area in order to teach and contribute toward journals. It's a stupid thing that you're just doing for e-kudos on MTF because it's clear you know nothing about tennis.
 

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Thanks! I posted the discussion above and included the initial list for you too. It's always good to know about journalists who are specialized like Nebojša Višković so thanks for that. I unfortunately don't read Serbian but I can at least get a sense by translating his pieces so that's potentially very useful. Rafael Plaza is a similar journalist when it comes to Nadal and sometimes the ATP will use him (he writes for El Espanol otherwise).

What is coverage of tennis like in Serbia? Are there dedicate networks now or dedicated weekly show which discuss it or does it depend on occasional coverage according to the event etc?
Well it's obvious that it's mostly Novak-coloured, which is understandable to a point. Most are glorifying him, and TV coverage on EuroSport is mostly rubbish, especially when Srdjan was a guest on Novak's matches (he literally said to a commentator "don't analyse tennis, just root for Novak" in a live broadcast, vs. Edmund) so I mostly switch to British commentators. That's 3 slams only. All masters events and Wimbledon are coverer by SportKlub where aforementioned Višković is the tv commentator, alongside some other good professional guys as well. Really a joy to watch and listen.

As for written media/portals there isn't anything specialised that I've came across and that felt like it has quality to be followed further. Many jusy gather cheap points by centering on Novak. Basically all that is good limited to this SportKlub channel and their weekly magazine, professional and unbiased, not showing their colors.
 

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Why wouldn't you just bump the thread?

Who would really scour the internet listening to podcasts of people talking about tennis and articles written about people talking about tennis? Most journalism relating to tennis is a joke, so what's the point?

Let's be honest, you're just trying to compare tennis to some kind of area of science where academics need to keep on top of their subject area in order to teach and contribute toward journals. It's a stupid thing that you're just doing for e-kudos on MTF because it's clear you know nothing about tennis.
It crossed my mind and I posed the question. Do you take it upon yourself to police threads here?

I have no idea what your blathering about the academy has to do with anything nor what any of this had to do with e-kudos (?) but obviously this is not a discussion for you so feel free to bloviate elsewhere.
 

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When I need a different approach than here, then I visit TTW for the fan banter.
Otherwise mainly the ATP site and sometimes a few selected blogs. Sometimes watch Gil Gross on Youtube.
Don't feel the need to listen to extended podcasts as they can be very tedious and subjective.

In my country we have a Eurosport tennis blog which is written by tennis journalists who are editors/commentators for Hungarian Eurosport.
That is mostly Fedal-friendly, but covers every major tennis issue and other players as well.
Twitter I rarely visit, only when slams are played or someone links it in GM.
Overall I don't really have a plan or regular habit of indulging in these, rather from time to time if I need some information.
 
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Well it's obvious that it's mostly Novak-coloured, which is understandable to a point. Most are glorifying him, and TV coverage on EuroSport is mostly rubbish, especially when Srdjan was a guest on Novak's matches (he literally said to a commentator "don't analyse tennis, just root for Novak" in a live broadcast, vs. Edmund) so I mostly switch to British commentators. That's 3 slams only. All masters events and Wimbledon are coverer by SportKlub where aforementioned Višković is the tv commentator, alongside some other good professional guys as well. Really a joy to watch and listen.

As for written media/portals there isn't anything specialised that I've came across and that felt like it has quality to be followed further. Many jusy gather cheap points by centering on Novak. Basically all that is good limited to this SportKlub channel and their weekly magazine, professional and unbiased, not showing their colors.
Thanks for the reply. Well it's understandable to some extent that Novak would dominate the media (do the other Serbian players get some coverage though?).

So if I understood you correctly, there's a weekly show on SportKlub which would go over what happened in tennis that week in general?
 
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