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What is an appropriate voting age?

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#1 ·
I would say 24 at the lowest and that's generous. Certainly not 18! Frankly, younger people are too :stupid: to vote. They have abnormal hormone levels (which affect behaviour), their brains are literally underdeveloped and they lack life experience. Why should they be allowed to decide how a country should be run???? It's :cuckoo:
 
#5 ·
Not a good idea. High IQ people are a bit weird and cannot relate to ordinary people. They dream up (or endorse) utopian schemes that can't work in a society where only a minority of the population think like they do and possess an IQ above 120. This is especially true for academics and 'intellectuals' who tend to be shielded from reality and live in a bubble.
 
#15 ·
There's absolutely no sense in arguing about the right age. It's meant to be an arbitrary point, as 18/21 are ages where most people reach certain levels of maturity (whatever you want this to mean) to be trusted with the responsibility of voting. The actual problem is that



So you're not going to change much by moving the voting age.
 
#4 ·
Age 24 or 25 probably
 
#6 ·
Voting should be banned all together, democracy sucks. Oligarchies are the way to go in the future.
 
#12 ·
I actually wouldn't mind a constitutional monarchy.

But now thinking about this thread again, I might actually say 30. Or, just weight votes by age. Let 18 year olds vote but give them very little proportionate weight compared to a 60 year old.
 
#20 ·
The main issues with democracy are:

* Democratic politicians have to please the media and are not allowed to reject any value or cause that is sacred to the media.
* Democratic politicians have to satisfy special interest groups and campaign donors.
* Democratic politicians have to engage in vote buying. Otherwise, rival parties can gain an advantage by throwing a treat to X group of voters.
* Democratic politicians only care about the next term in office, not the long term. Thus, democracy means high time preference.
* Democracy fractures society between rival political factions and hyper-politicizes everything. I think most human activity shold be indifferent to political convictions. Today's total politicalization is a historical anomaly.
 
#22 ·
are you copy-pasting this from a pdf?
 
#26 ·
24?! :spit:

the problem in the UK is not enough youths vote, not that too many do :facepalm:
 
#30 ·
No...just no. Only people with real life experience should be able to vote. It's not about measured "intelligence."
 
#35 ·
There are 3 types of parties that win a significantly larger portion of young voters than voters in general. Their characteristics are:

1. Cultural marxism, hyper-globalism, eco-fascism, state socialism, culture of entitlement.

2. Cultural marxism, hyper-globalism, extreme libertarianism, free market fetishism.

3. Nationalism, 1950's nostalgia, anti-globalism, grandpa's social democracy.
 
#36 ·
The main problem is the cultural marxism that has completely taken over (mostly) the youths. They only get out of that by growing up and experiencing the real world. I am in complete agreeance with you about raising the voting age to at least 25, preferably 30.
 
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#39 ·
Uncle vs Pablo? gonna get me some pop corn
 
#40 ·
Personally I couldn't care less, but if you're looking for an age, then 16 is enough. Though I'd go with.. if you can read, you can vote.

I've never actually voted. Wouldn't walk into a school again by choice. So they can increase the age limit to OAPs for all I care.
 
#41 ·
I only voted once when I was 18 to taste the thrill and that was it.
 
#43 ·
I guess that lack of proper representation, people feeling separated from the political system, i.e "not caring" or calling themselves apolitical, converging on not voting, or when forced to (places where it's obligatory, such as my country) voting randomly or carelessly; shows a problem slightly bigger than "teenagers cannot know, blabla". Shame that motorhead and Sham Kay don't have their ages put... I'd like to know why you don't vote, if it's not too annoying.

then 16 is enough. Though I'd go with.. if you can read, you can vote.
This is fine too. Add "not having serious cognitive problems" to that and I'm set.
 
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I guess that lack of proper representation, people feeling separated from the political system, i.e "not caring" or calling themselves apolitical, converging on not voting, or when forced to (places where it's obligatory, such as my country) voting randomly or carelessly; shows a problem slightly bigger than "teenagers cannot know, blabla". Shame that motorhead and Sham Kay don't have their ages put... I'd like to know why you don't vote, if it's not too annoying.

This is fine too. Add "not having serious cognitive problems" to that and I'm set.
it's a question that would require long answers. since I feel there's hardly any politics behind today's politics but only commercial interests from people who's doing politics, the parties I'd vote for are destined to obtain very little consensus. besides I think politics is something very complex and one should question his own maturity and cultural level before expressing a vote, something I don't see happening that often.
also there's plenty of math and game theory research on voting systems and other political issues that show how our choiches don't always reflect the best possible option.
add to that scarce faith in the human race and you have a pretty pessimistic picture.
 
#52 ·
Her Royal Highness is far too bourgeoisie. Did you know she did her own make up on her wedding day? She was even spotted doing her own shopping at Waitrose! :eek:



Why doesn't she let her servants do it for her? She's too squeamish to be a lady.
 
#53 ·
Her Royal Highness is far too bourgeoisie. Did you know she did her own make up on her wedding day? She was even spotted doing her own shopping at Waitrose!
Waitrose is still better than real pleb hunting grounds such as Tesco or, God forbid, Sainsbury's. But I do see your point, brushing shoulders with the great unwashed is definitely a faux pas and unbecoming.
 
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