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I would say 24 at the lowest and that's generous. Certainly not 18! Frankly, younger people are too :stupid: to vote. They have abnormal hormone levels (which affect behaviour), their brains are literally underdeveloped and they lack life experience. Why should they be allowed to decide how a country should be run???? It's :cuckoo:
 

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i think it should be IQ based

if you put a (wild) age limitation, don't forget the other extremity as well..
 

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Voting is inherently flawed in that it assumes that people are not generally morons, regardless of age.
 

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Age 24 or 25 probably
 

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i think it should be IQ based

if you put a (wild) age limitation, don't forget the other extremity as well..
Not a good idea. High IQ people are a bit weird and cannot relate to ordinary people. They dream up (or endorse) utopian schemes that can't work in a society where only a minority of the population think like they do and possess an IQ above 120. This is especially true for academics and 'intellectuals' who tend to be shielded from reality and live in a bubble.
 

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Voting should be banned all together, democracy sucks. Oligarchies are the way to go in the future.
 

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Not a good idea. High IQ people are a bit weird and cannot relate to ordinary people. They dream up (or endorse) utopian schemes that can't work in a society where only a minority of the population think like they do and possess an IQ above 120. This is especially true for academics and 'intellectuals' who tend to be shielded from reality and live in a bubble.
i think you wouldn't make the cut :sad:
 

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Voting should be banned all together, democracy sucks. Oligarchies are the way to go in the future.
Oligarchies are terrible. Merchants and usurers make the worst rulers.

Representative democracy seems to result in de facto oligarchy though.
 

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Benevolent dictatorship is proven to be best. Problem is, the benevolent bit is difficult to achieve.
 

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Oligarchies are terrible. Merchants and usurers make the worst rulers.

Representative democracy seems to result in de facto oligarchy though.
The problem is that every form of government is terrible. I truly believe that in theory a dictatorship is the best possible system, but it has never been executed properly. Germany in the 30s was pretty damn great though, too bad they had to mess it up with hatred and war.
 

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I actually wouldn't mind a constitutional monarchy.

But now thinking about this thread again, I might actually say 30. Or, just weight votes by age. Let 18 year olds vote but give them very little proportionate weight compared to a 60 year old.
 

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I actually wouldn't mind a constitutional monarchy.

But now thinking about this thread again, I might actually say 30. Or, just weight votes by age. Let 18 year olds vote but give them very little proportionate weight compared to a 60 year old.
this pretty much means socialism till the end of days.

and bankruptcy in 2 years
 

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There's absolutely no sense in arguing about the right age. It's meant to be an arbitrary point, as 18/21 are ages where most people reach certain levels of maturity (whatever you want this to mean) to be trusted with the responsibility of voting. The actual problem is that

Voting is inherently flawed in that it assumes that people are not generally morons, regardless of age.
So you're not going to change much by moving the voting age.
 

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There's absolutely no sense in arguing about the right age. It's meant to be an arbitrary point, as 18/21 are ages where most people reach certain levels of maturity (whatever you want this to mean) to be trusted with the responsibility of voting. The actual problem is that



So you're not going to change much by moving the voting age.
you are going to change much indeed, yet in the wrong direction.

but yeah, as spoken several times, it's the least terrible way figured.

 

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this pretty much means socialism till the end of days.

and bankruptcy in 2 years
Why? Older voters tend to vote more conservative, at least in the US.
 

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Mandatory IQ tests for voting, age is irrelevant except if it goes below 16.

Anyway just a hint, frontal lobe fully develops at 16 i've read, so it means a 16 year old can be as smart as a 25 years old, what separates the two is wisdom and experience.
 

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The main issues with democracy are:

* Democratic politicians have to please the media and are not allowed to reject any value or cause that is sacred to the media.
* Democratic politicians have to satisfy special interest groups and campaign donors.
* Democratic politicians have to engage in vote buying. Otherwise, rival parties can gain an advantage by throwing a treat to X group of voters.
* Democratic politicians only care about the next term in office, not the long term. Thus, democracy means high time preference.
* Democracy fractures society between rival political factions and hyper-politicizes everything. I think most human activity shold be indifferent to political convictions. Today's total politicalization is a historical anomaly.
 
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