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During 2004-2007 time, Federer forehand was a monster. He can out-rally anyone from baseline or over-power anyone from the baseline with that single shot. He can hit winner from anywhere in the court. He literally killed the competition in his prime with that powerful shot.

Now, what has gone wrong with his forehand?. No sting in that shot. It is just a pale of what it was once.

What affected his forehand?

- His foot speed slowed down.
- Lost power in his body
- Racquet change
- His FH racquet head speed gone down
- He has changed his forehand technique over a period
- In the process of adjusting to Nadal's game, he has lost it.

Discuss :wavey:
 

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Conditions became slower and opponents faster, as a result Federer started playing less flat an more topspin in order to make him more consistent.

i think he is now at a point he has difficulty flatting it out because he is missing the confident feeling he once had because of hitting 80% of the forehands with fast pace at that time.
 

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He played in weak era and he was younger, faster and stronger before.
 

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During 2004-2007 time, Federer forehand was a monster. He can out-rally anyone from baseline or over-power anyone from the baseline with that single shot. He can hit winner from anywhere in the court. He literally killed the competition in his prime with that powerful shot.

Now, what has gone wrong with his forehand?. No sting in that shot. It is just a pale of what it was once.

What affected his forehand?

- His foot speed slowed down.
- Lost power in his body
- Racquet change
- His FH racquet head speed gone down
- He has changed his forehand technique over a period
- In the process of adjusting to Nadal's game, he has lost it.

Discuss :wavey:
During 2004-2007 , we had kids playing tennis NOT professionals.
Federer forehand was never a weapon , Backhand was decent though.

He was actually more of an all rounder player than anything else.
 

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Its about his grip on new racquet. It is the same kind of grip as old Wilson Pro Stuff (with which Sampras and Edberg played)

The grip is a bit rounder than "normal" grips these days and ussually people have good feeling for backhand and volleys with him. However, it is a bit weird with a feel for a top spin forheand. (which everybody plays these days)
 

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The change/adaptation to the bigger racquet, brought on by slower conditions and perhaps age.

He ostensibly increased the size to get more power, especially for his backhand.
There have been good results in that department, more consistency and better power, essentially because he rarely tries to wallop the backhand much. He is just benefiting from the bigger racquet.

His serve seems to have also benefited a bit from the change. Career first serve win pct. - 77%, 2014 - 79%, 2015 - 80%. The pct. of first serves in remains about the same.

Unfortunately for him, the forehand has taken a while to come around. I believe when Federer hits a controlled forehand it also has more power and he is consistent with it. The problem comes when he tries to unleash with it like he did previously. It is has been a 50-50 proposition at best whether it will go flying on him, or produce a winner or nonreturnable. He just doesn't have enough control with it. He could try to string with more tension, which would probably help controlling the forehand, but then that would offset the increased power of the backhand. The other area where he could use more control is on the forehand return. That also has been relatively poor of late.

I think in faster conditions like Cinci, Dubai, Shanghai, he doesn't need to unleash to produce the winners and has had great results.

I think he is gradually getting better with it. I saw one or two unleashed forehands in Rome that had amazing power. But obviously that's not enough.

Maybe he needs to tinker with the tension just a bit and increase it slightly. I'll observe closer how his control fluctuates with the new balls/racquet change during matches.

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Now I truly believe some people here in their mind are living in a fantasy land where people simply do not age and do not get older.
 

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Now I truly believe some people here in their mind are living in a fantasy land where people simply do not age and do not get older.
People do not forget their best shots just like that. If you look at some players of old like Sampras and Ivanišević, you can see that their serve today is just as good as before. They just suck at movement and reactions now.
 

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Federer's forehand is better than ever. The only thing that has changed is that the newer era of players are much better and the older players have learned to force errors out of it over the years.
 

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What has gone wrong with Nadal's forehand? Same answer. They are getting older. You will say the same for Djokovic's backhand after 2017.
 

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During 2004-2007 time, Federer forehand was a monster. He can out-rally anyone from baseline or over-power anyone from the baseline with that single shot. He can hit winner from anywhere in the court. He literally killed the competition in his prime with that powerful shot.

Now, what has gone wrong with his forehand?. No sting in that shot. It is just a pale of what it was once.

What affected his forehand?

- His foot speed slowed down.
- Lost power in his body
- Racquet change
- His FH racquet head speed gone down
- He has changed his forehand technique over a period
- In the process of adjusting to Nadal's game, he has lost it.

Discuss :wavey:
Good morning.

After 2007 his forehand realized that great competition like Roddick, Hewitt started declining. Since it did not require to fire as much against inferior players like Nadal and Djokovic, it reduced itself in sting, power and venom for the sake of reducing global warming.
 

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During 2004-2007 time, Federer forehand was a monster. He can out-rally anyone from baseline or over-power anyone from the baseline with that single shot. He can hit winner from anywhere in the court. He literally killed the competition in his prime with that powerful shot.

Now, what has gone wrong with his forehand?. No sting in that shot. It is just a pale of what it was once.

What affected his forehand?

- His foot speed slowed down.
- Lost power and explosiveness
- Due to the things above, and to avoid putting pressure on his ageing body, he changed style significantly. Now, he relies on variety, serve and net play. The racquet change is a function of this.

Discuss :wavey:
More or less what OP said.
 

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The timing of FH degradation overlaps with the racquet change. It is clearly the racquet. New racquet helped him in other aspects of his game (Sever, BH), but turned his FH into junk.

90erer FH >>>>>>>> 98erer FH
 

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That "monster" of a FH by Roger "in his prime" wouldn't have worked as effectively in today's tennis anyway, as the pace of the game has become faster, surfaces slower, and rallies longer. What makes him absolutely great is his ability to constantly adapt his game, to the new breed of players, new surfaces, etc. That's what has enabled him to be on top of the game for such a long time.

His FH is fine, and still very effective. But of course, he's getting older, and reflex is probably one of the things that is gradually fading away.
 

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Good morning.

After 2007 his forehand realized that great competition like Roddick, Hewitt started declining. Since it did not require to fire as much against inferior players like Nadal and Djokovic, it reduced itself in sting, power and venom for the sake of reducing global warming.
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During 2004-2007 , we had kids playing tennis NOT professionals.
Federer forehand was never a weapon , Backhand was decent though.

He was actually more of an all rounder player than anything else.
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He made it look easy with his talent on his attacking game. Its called innovation.

After which people start to invent counter.
 

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Federer's forehand is better than ever. The only thing that has changed is that the newer era of players are much better and the older players have learned to force errors out of it over the years.
Only his volleys improved.

Serve, ROS, fh, bh on defense and attack all had dropped. The newer era, he is still beating them easily except for 2 players.

Safin, roddick, nalbandian, hewitt, haas can outplay berdych, ferrer, nishikori etc
 

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Federer's forehand is better than ever. The only thing that has changed is that the newer era of players are much better and the older players have learned to force errors out of it over the years.
:spit: It has visibly declined significantly. No questions about it. Has no pace nor depth. Players can attack that wing now, and with his backhand a little better but still a one hander he is more vulnerable.
 
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