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Lets hear it folks. If you were in team fed what would your advice be for fed to work on for his best chance to win this slam in the current state of tennis?
 

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I would make him work on his backhand. ;) And play aggressive and not shy away from being aggressive on the second serve return.

Most importantly, I would tell him to fight against all odds to freaking maintain his focus throughout an entire match and not just a set or two.
 

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Hope that Rafa, Andy and especially Novak are not 100%. Only way he could win. If Novak gets rested and healthy on that court, Federer can do whatever he wants, it will not matter.
 

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Definitely hope Nole is not 100 percent..They have met twice and I don't think Roger has won a set has he? Murray should be no issue.. Tsonga may be an issue As could Berdych.. Will have to wait and if see Nadal is ready since hes playing Davis Cup before.


Really Fed shouldn't need to do anything Outside of Nole, no one should be an issue.. Just play his game and either:

A: Hope to Avoid Nole
B: Hope Nole isn't 100 percent
C: A long shot.. Hope 2009 AO Nadal doesn't show up.
 

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Shoulder injuries are a bitch to recover from what I've heard and Nole's been dealing with this since Cinci if I recall. Is it safe to assume it should be better by January?? Someone who knows more about those kinda issues care to share..
 

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If he plays like he played this week vs Nadal... Best 2008 Rafa and Best 2011 Nole together playing vs him...


Roger in 3.

So, I think it's in his mental focus... If he gets a good W/UE rate, he's good.
 

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I think the mental focus gets blown out of proportion a bit. I think he got a bit unlucky in the tsonga and novak matches bc they played great when it mattered.

I like what fed has been doing on the ROS lately getting many more 6-1 or 6-2 sets by mixing up things returning and I think that will be key to his success.
 

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He doesn't need to work on his backhand, he's fixed after getting his rear end spanked at the previous AO. But this USO we saw how he fixed it.

The main thing is his stamina/endurance. Since he can' work on this (since he's too old). The only thing he must do is the following:

1. Keep rallies short (no more than 7-8 shot rallies).
2. Stay away from constant deuce points (the more he's trapped in deuce, the more he gets drained).

He'll be fine once he implements point 1 and 2. This is all assuming just like this year's 2011 USO: his serve is reliable, his backhand is clicking, and his footwork is solid.
 

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Thanks for the constructive suggestion. :lol: ;)

Yeah, his backhand as a whole has been at least good, but it was woeful in the Ferrer match last night. :lol:
I voted endurance. You can't really work on that when you get up in age. Though I suppose you can improve it in some ways, like watching what you eat, more practice, staying fresher by taking less days off, doing endurance training.
 

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I remember how fit andre agassi was when he was 32,33 let alone playing 3 five settters in a row at the open when he was 35. I think federer can improve his endurance. He probably needs to mix up his training. I think he has that pierra pagnani guy but it would be good to spend time with someone else or at least switch it up some.
 

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Not too much, he is kind of dominating right now. Working on his backhand could help since the courts will be significantly slower and higher bouncing. But if the top 4 players remain as weak as they are at the moment, there is no reason Federer should not win the AO next year. It is crazy but it will soon be 2012 and Federer won't have too many threats (if Novak's level remains where it is now).
 

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Hope that Rafa, Andy and especially Novak are not 100%. Only way he could win. If Novak gets rested and healthy on that court, Federer can do whatever he wants, it will not matter.
Ya French Open SF didn't happen last year. Federer at his best can still compete with anyone at their best and that is a fact. He may not be physically the same player, but he can still hit winners past anyone. Djokovic can do wahtever he wants, it won't matter if he gets aced or has a 100 MPH forehand struck past him. Don't be a fool.

You're really bringing Andy into the equation? Aside from beating Nadal twice out of what, eight (?) meetings, Murray hasn't done shit against the big 3. Then, in terms of Australia and Nadal, it is his least successful slam, so suddenly Nadal at the this stage and from what we know is going to be a favorite for the title over Federer/Djokovic?

The only thing Federer needs to do is be ready mentally. He has struggled to peak at the right time, for the right matches. And in many of his recent Grand Slam matches, he has changed his tactics at the strangest moments. For example, in the second set of Australia last year against Novak, he was playing much more patient and took his time which allowed him to break Novak's rhythm and nearly take the set. However, after he got the lead, he went back to how he played the first set and it was then Novak who was taking his time and allowed Federer to make poor decisions in their rallies.

Either way, if you look in the past during Federer's prime, he didn't particularly play amazing in the first week of slam events, he would do just enough, or as they say, he would play as Soliderer. I've felt that the past few years he would reach his peak performance in the first week of slams and then when the second week would come, he would be spraying errors quite a bit. At the French Open this year, he did very well to peak for the second week, but at some of the other tournaments, I think he peaked very poorly. Of course it is easier said than done and you risk losing early if you just play bare minimum, but that balance does need to be maintained. Many tournament winners start out their runs shaky. Just look at Novak. At the US Open 2010, he played that really questionable match against Troicki and went on to reach the final. Then in Australia, he lost a set against Dodig and things were not looking too promising, yet he ended up winning the title. Similarly for Federer, at the Australian Open 2010, he didn't play lights out tennis from his first round match against Andreev all the way to Davydenko, but he certainly turned up the heat for his SF/F matches.

He should take a nice break after London and come back to Doha playing lackadaisical if he honestly wants any chance in Australia. Just compare the starts of 2011 and 2010. He started Doha in 2010 somewhat poor and got his ass handed to him by Davydenko, but ended up playing some of his best tennis ever in Australia. Then in 2011, he played absolutely perfect in Doha, returned the favor to Davydenko in the final but played quite poorly in Australia. It doesn't mean he shouldn't win Doha, but he shouldn't play all his cards at that event. A great example is Halle 2006. All his matches were literally tight 3 setters and he even had to save 4 match points against Rochus. But after winning Halle, he came into Wimbledon on amazing form and only dropped one set which was in the final.
 
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Just two things. Footwork and serve. Every time he plays badly these days it's easy to see that his movement is not quite where it used to be.
 

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there isnt much he can do, the game has evolved, im afraid his single handed backhand isnt going to cut it anymore.
 

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AO is the least likely chance Rog can win slam next year.
The heat will get to old fed, and tire him easily.

I don't think Rog can win AO, it's Nole's to lose.
 
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