[Logical]

what is going on? :facepalm:

 

[Gagsquet]

Illogical mate I agree

 

[ImmzB]

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Always nice to see a brother/sister coming into Islam!

 

[GOAT = Fed]

What's wrong with people converting to Islam? I mean people have free will, no? :shrug:

 

[ImmzB]

What's wrong with people converting to Islam? I mean people have free will, no? :shrug:

+1

 

[Logical]

Not wrong but in that video he says it is difficult to live in UK without converting to muslim?So women are forced to convert?I am sorry if I understand the video badly.

 

[Sham Kay Adams]

Can't be asked with watching the entire thing but hey, if these women like the ideals of islam, then good on them for being decisive on how they want to live their life.

I know nothing about Islam apart from that it is the fastest growing religion in the world. So they must be doing something right.

 

[fast_clay]

as long as they are not having forced circumcision to gain entry then is no harm....

same shit different bucket really

 

[Logical]

Can't be asked with watching the entire thing but hey, if these women like the ideals of islam, then good on them for being decisive on how they want to live their life.

I know nothing about Islam apart from that it is the fastest growing religion in the world. So they must be doing something right.

Christmas trees abandoned in middle east.Freedom for other religions is very little in Islam countries:wavey:Christianity allows freedom to other religions.Why do christians converting to islam knowing this?

 

[Sham Kay Adams]

Might want to ask someone who appreciates the idea of religion but I'll give it a go.

I suppose people belong to a particular religion not because of the comforts and freedoms they're given, but because they believe it speaks the most truths, especially regarding how we should be living. These Western Women and all the other Islam converts must simply just want to belong with the religion which they believe will make the world a better place to live.

From my unbiased point of view, the basics of it is, Islam is better at selling themselves than Christianity or any other religion is. You can call it making the most sense, best persuasion, best guilt trips or even best brainwashing.. depends on your point of view.

 

[buddyholly]

PRESSTV?

Is this forum turning into a propaganda instrument of Iran.

I gave up a few minutes into the first interview, it was so scripted.

And that English woman presenter covering her hair. Does she really think men will be overcome by lust for her body if she takes it off?

But apart from that video being scripted, I imagine when non-Muslim women fall for a Muslim guy, they are given no choice if they want to marry him. Most probably regret it later.I never got far enough into it to know if they gave any statistics on men converting.

 

[Topspindoctor]

From my unbiased point of view, the basics of it is, Islam is better at selling themselves than Christianity or any other religion is. You can call it making the most sense, best persuasion, best guilt trips or even best brainwashing.. depends on your point of view.

It's too bad western governments around the world still haven't realized how dangerous religion is, especially considering most people are brainless sheep. There should be self-awareness classes, which educate people about the dangers of worshiping someone who doesn't exist.

 

[Chip_s_m]

It's too bad western governments around the world still haven't realized how dangerous religion is, especially considering most people are brainless sheep. There should be self-awareness classes, which educate people about the dangers of worshiping someone who doesn't exist.

Yes, it would be much better to brainlessly follow a government.

 

[Sham Kay Adams]

Yes, it would be much better to brainlessly follow a government.

I've found it's even worse brainlessly following myself.

 

[swisht4u]

Religion is just a preference, like having a stand against abortion or some other point of view.

Most of these religions have people in the past communicating to god.
No one today can say this, they would be locked up even if there were witnesses.

There's nothing wrong about liking or not liking Islam, it's just a different point of view.
People get ridiculed on points of view all the time and there's nothing wrong with doing the same to religious believers of a certain faith.

Some think some faiths are just over the edge and don't care for the followers of that faith, this can be called anti-islam, anti-christian or anti-semitism.

It's not always people hating the followers of those faiths but the repulsion that they could get brainwashed so easily into believing in them.

With this set of rules I have no problem with people saying bad things about a religion, everyones point of view in this area should be expressed if they want, it's not always hate as I mentioned above.

I was raised catholic, if anyone has bad things to say about it this is fine, I can't expect everyone to agree with my viewpoint even though now I don't agree with it either.

anti-islam, anti-christian or anti-semitism, just points of view and it's fine by me if any of these man-made rules that involve god is looked down apon.

These western woman made a choice, it means little unless rules from the religion start effecting the law and imposes these rules on everyone.

 

[emotion]

Yes, it would be much better to brainlessly follow a government.

It is, a government does not have the same unconditional love (I imagine much NK mourning is fake) as blind faith in a supposed higher being.

 

[Logical]

Religion is just a preference, like having a stand against abortion or some other point of view.

Most of these religions have people in the past communicating to god.
No one today can say this, they would be locked up even if there were witnesses.

There's nothing wrong about liking or not liking Islam, it's just a different point of view.
People get ridiculed on points of view all the time and there's nothing wrong with doing the same to religious believers of a certain faith.

Some think some faiths are just over the edge and don't care for the followers of that faith, this can be called anti-islam, anti-christian or anti-semitism.

It's not always people hating the followers of those faiths but the repulsion that they could get brainwashed so easily into believing in them.

With this set of rules I have no problem with people saying bad things about a religion, everyones point of view in this area should be expressed if they want, it's not always hate as I mentioned above.

I was raised catholic, if anyone has bad things to say about it this is fine, I can't expect everyone to agree with my viewpoint even though now I don't agree with it either.

anti-islam, anti-christian or anti-semitism, just points of view and it's fine by me if any of these man-made rules that involve god is looked down apon.

These western woman made a choice, it means little unless rules from the religion start effecting the law and imposes these rules on everyone.

There is forced conversions in some parts of world and brainwashing too.In the video it says women in London cannot walk safe in streets without belonging to Isalm.Why governments are not stopping forced conversion?Some muslim laws are not friendly.In Midle east countries worshiping other Gods is banned.Christianity, Budhist, Hindu countries do not have such laws but why Islams have that?

 

[buddyholly]

Good question. I hope someone answers.

 

[HKz]

PRESSTV?

Is this forum turning into a propaganda instrument of Iran.

I gave up a few minutes into the first interview, it was so scripted.

And that English woman presenter covering her hair. Does she really think men will be overcome by lust for her body if she takes it off?

But apart from that video being scripted, I imagine when non-Muslim women fall for a Muslim guy, they are given no choice if they want to marry him. Most probably regret it later.I never got far enough into it to know if they gave any statistics on men converting.

I'm Muslim and my wife is Christian I certainly never forced her to convert, even though she has offered to.

 

[EddceLLent]

I suppose people belong to a particular religion not because of the comforts and freedoms they're given, but because they believe it speaks the most truths, especially regarding how we should be living. These Western Women and all the other Islam converts must simply just want to belong with the religion which they believe will make the world a better place to live.

1.) No, I think it's far too simplistic to say that people follow certain religions because they believe that they espouse the most truths. Surely it must be the case that a vast majority of religious people in the world are born into families or cultures where they'd be ostracised for not following the religion that the rest of their family/society are. I think it's probably a very small minority of religious people that have finally chosen that path after careful spiritual contemplation.

2.) Maybe it's just me being cynical, but perhaps western women marrying muslim men and converting to Islam is just a reaction against feminism? A lot of women want to be submissive and maybe they feel more comfortable being in a relationship where the man is in charge and their roles are more clearly defined.