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With chaos comes opportunity, and UTR has taken it. Powered by Oracle, owned by Uber-Billionare Larry Ellison, UTR has the resources to offer the money


Check out this schedule


They have 15 events just in the US just in the first 3 months. They already had an Aussie tour recently and will have Euro and South American tours surely in 2021 or 2022 the latest

And check out the prize money:

Winner: $4,000 Finalist: $2,200 Semifinalist: $1,200 Quarterfinalist: $725 9th place: $600 10th place: $550 11th & 12th place: $500 13th - 16th place: $450 17th place: $425 18th place: $375 19th & 20th place: $325 21st - 24th place: $275 25th - 32nd place: $250

The 4K winner's check is more money than you make in a 15K title, a 25K title, and roughly equal to a CH80K Final. I mean that is ridiculous

If the ATP gave these events ranking points, the ITF would be out of the futures business immediately

How about the entry list?

Dec 13-20 in Naples


Top 7 seeds ranked 420-like 600ish

Maybe these can be finally the long sought-after mid-way point between CH and Futures
 

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If the ATP gave these events ranking points, the ITF would be out of the futures business immediately
Has there been any reaching out or discussions between the ATP and UTR at all as far as that being something they would consider in the future?
 

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Has there been any reaching out or discussions between the ATP and UTR at all as far as that being something they would consider in the future?
Not that I know of at this moment, but the threat is certainly there over the next decade as tennis is no stranger to competing tours historically
 

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The money’s great, but I’m a bit worried they’ll become similar to the club tennis or prize money tournaments played in Europe - ie, great for funding more tennis but still fairly useless without any points attached to them

That being said, they will be a great way of keeping players on tour for longer with their generous prize money
 

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Wow, that is some serious schedule.
I definitely think it should be a viable alternative to players ranked outside the top 400 on the ATP Rankings at the beginning of the year - more guaranteed matches to improve, more equal matches due to entry being based on more accurate ratings, better prize money.
The ATP Ranking points having inflated numbers also makes it much harder to climb currently.
The plan should be to get better through playing this tour, and then when getting to about position 200 on UTR, this is a good enough level to try climbing fast enough on the ATP Rankings.
 

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UTR have done a better job than ITF's World Tennis Tour, that's for sure. Their 2019 debacle of taking away points has not helped, and currently, they're at a standstill with whatever they had planned. UTR has the opportunity to sweep in, but they do need worldwide coverage and at least 2 tiers of events, perhaps even offering hospitality as default. That would indeed change the entry level Tier forever.
 

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Wow, that is some serious schedule.
I definitely think it should be a viable alternative to players ranked outside the top 400 on the ATP Rankings at the beginning of the year - more guaranteed matches to improve, more equal matches due to entry being based on more accurate ratings, better prize money.
The ATP Ranking points having inflated numbers also makes it much harder to climb currently.
The plan should be to get better through playing this tour, and then when getting to about position 200 on UTR, this is a good enough level to try climbing fast enough on the ATP Rankings.
It is - and someone who's well funded after doing well in a few UTR's is in a better spot to challenge ATP players than they would be otherwise
 

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UTR have done a better job than ITF's World Tennis Tour, that's for sure. Their 2019 debacle of taking away points has not helped, and currently, they're at a standstill with whatever they had planned. UTR has the opportunity to sweep in, but they do need worldwide coverage and at least 2 tiers of events, perhaps even offering hospitality as default. That would indeed change the entry level Tier forever.
You are right, and we need to remember that for ITF level players we essentially have a two-year ATP rankings, therefor it is much harder to climb for young upcoming players.
If the UTR can add higher goals, perhaps having some sort of Year-End Championship with 200K$ or something like that for the best players on their tour, that can really become a legitimate tour!
 

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You seem to be guaranteed more matches doing UTR, and not only more matches in the tournament itself but it seems they are doing multiple tournaments in a row in the same location or at least country (at least so far during this covid era) as opposed to going out first round in Turkey and then taking the Siberian Express to Kazakhstan and losing R1 and flying back to France, 5,000 euro in the hole.

That being said, it's hard to get much info out of the website without signing up but there were only eight players at these tournaments if i'm reading it right (in Australia anyway), thats a far cry from a 48 guy draw in ITF. So how many actually get the opportunity?
 

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You seem to be guaranteed more matches doing UTR, and not only more matches in the tournament itself but it seems they are doing multiple tournaments in a row in the same location or at least country (at least so far during this covid era) as opposed to going out first round in Turkey and then taking the Siberian Express to Kazakhstan and losing R1 and flying back to France, 5,000 euro in the hole.

That being said, it's hard to get much info out of the website without signing up but there were only eight players at these tournaments if i'm reading it right (in Australia anyway), thats a far cry from a 48 guy draw in ITF. So how many actually get the opportunity?
Tbh whilst there are only eight players, there are three or four tournaments going on in any big city in Aus at the one time, and there have been a few tournaments with an A, B and C grade tournament taking place at the same time
 

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You seem to be guaranteed more matches doing UTR, and not only more matches in the tournament itself but it seems they are doing multiple tournaments in a row in the same location or at least country (at least so far during this covid era) as opposed to going out first round in Turkey and then taking the Siberian Express to Kazakhstan and losing R1 and flying back to France, 5,000 euro in the hole.

That being said, it's hard to get much info out of the website without signing up but there were only eight players at these tournaments if i'm reading it right (in Australia anyway), thats a far cry from a 48 guy draw in ITF. So how many actually get the opportunity?
This was just for Australia. Tournaments will have 32 players (8 groups of 4), with backdraws for the 2nd and 3rd placed players in each group as well.
There are 24 direct entries, 4 WCs (that can't be ranked too high or low), and 4 qualifiers (1 round of qualifying)
 
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