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Any parallels with 60s or 70s are meaningless.
Cold War had been a huge stabilizing factor for USA. Whatever internal divide had been , Cold War clearly made all country feel that in something bigger they are on the same side.
It's not the same now. End of Cold War vacated an enormous amounts of internal social energy, that is now progressively turned into infighting.
Cold War was providing a moral foundation for both sides, a moral backbone. Once it was removed, USSR immediately collapsed, as there was nothing else unifying the country. With USA it's not much different, it's just slower. Traditional American values are getting watered down day by day. Mainstream politicians are talking about people "unwilling to work" being normal. Religion is getting removed from life. Drugs getting legalized. Concept of family devalued, step by step. Schools are getting useless. Country is relying 75% on foreign educated people for doing mission critical jobs. And the growing irreversible divide is just a reflection of more and more people wanting to have nothing in common with what made this country great and mighty.
We lost a capacity to send people to space a decade ago. We lost key nuclear technologies. We are impotent at executing any significant infrastructural project, other than for insane price tags and ridiculous timelines. Our single fighter jet project costs a trillion, we build warships priced tens of billions apiece. We are no longer competitive in that. We completely lost what defines a stable society - a balance of rights and duties. We want more and more rights and entitlements, and less and less responsibilities.
We are on the brink. We are bound to either go the right, where this slide to chaos will be stopped by force. Or go more and more to the left, where leftwingers will be forced to redistribute more and more under pressure of being unable to deliver on their social promises.
It's a matter of couple of decades, top. The changes that happened in last two decades are unbelievable, and it's just a beginning.
 

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And for those who think I am exaggerating or it is fearmongering, and this can't happen .. you haven't lived through USSR collapse. Any thought of USSR having any problems would not even cross one's mind until around 1986. And then , gradually, there was that increasing feeling of disintegrating society, of people losing their faith and values, losing whatever made them people of the same country, starting to look for enemies inside the country among yesterday's neighbours, starting to look at how to get more while working less. And stupid leaders trying to change too many things too fast.
Changes could be good. But fast changes based on dismissing things that were sacred for generations kills the moral foundation, as people start to feel that there is nothing they can hold onto.
I recognize the same processes happening now in USA. You think nothing bad can happen to the country you live in, because it existed for so long and is so strong abd great. So was I back in 1985.
 

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Do you need some quick cash? ;)

U.S. announces reward up to $15 million for Venezuela's Maduro

The U.S. State Department on Thursday announced rewards for information leading to the arrest or conviction of various Venezuelan nationals, including President Nicolas Maduro who Washington aims to push out of power.

“The Department is offering a reward of up to $15 million for information related to Nicolas Maduro Moros,” the State Department said in a statement. The move came as the U.S. Justice Department announced charges against Maduro and others on narco-terrorism.
 

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It’s not a coup to replace an illegal government with a legitimate one. Time to kill Maduro
The international observers said the elections were done correctly, therefore the government in power is the legitimate one.

You can read a short extract of the EU declaration statement and the letter in response below. You can read the full EU declaration here.

“Major obstacles to the participation of opposition political parties and their leaders, an unbalanced composition of the National Electoral Council, biased electoral conditions, numerous reported irregularities during the Election Day, including vote buying, stood in the way of fair and equitable elections.”

Dear Ms Mogherini,
I was a member of a roughly hundred-strong core of observers of the May 20 Venezuelan election. We met senior representatives of all the candidates, and questioned them closely. We met with the president and two vice-presidents of the Supreme Judicial Tribunal. We examined the electoral system in detail and, on election day, observed voting procedures across the country.
We noted, in particular, not only the sophistication of the voting system which, in our collective view, is fraud-proof, but also that every stage, from the vote itself to the collation of returns, their verification and electronic submission, was conducted in the presence of representatives of the contending parties. As for “reporting irregularities”, we would be interested to hear of examples, since the reporting system is exceptionally rigorous and tamper-free. We doubt you have any evidence to back up the EU’s claim of “numerous reporting irregularities”.
We were unanimous in concluding that the elections were conducted fairly, that the election conditions were not biased, that genuine irregularities were exceptionally few and of a very minor nature. There was no vote buying because there is no way that a vote CAN be bought. The procedure itself precludes any possibility of anyone knowing how a voter cast her or his vote; and it is impossible – as we verified – for an individual to vote more than once or for anyone to vote on behalf of someone else.
In short, the claims in your press release are fabrications of the most disgraceful kind, based on hearsay and not on evidence and unworthy of the EU. It has not escaped notice that the EU was invited to send observers to the election and declined to do so. NONE of the criticism in your EU press release is, therefore, based on direct EU observation in the field.
I would be happy to discuss this further with you and to put you or your colleagues in touch with other observers – among whom were senior politicians, academics, election officials, journalists and civil servants from many different nations including: Spain, UK, Northern Ireland, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile, Honduras, Italy, several Caribbean countries, South Africa, Tunisia, China, Russia,and the United States (sic).

Yours sincerely,
Jeremy Fox, journalist / writer
Jospeh Farrell, Board of the Centre for Investigative Journalism
Calvin Tucker, journalist MS
Dr Francisco Dominguez, Latin American Studies, Middlesex University
 

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The international observers said the elections were done correctly, therefore the government in power is the legitimate one.



Do you know where I could find a full list of all the international observers from this election? The signatories to this open letter are funny.

It does not surprise me that these Maduro supporters reported that the process which kept him in power is entirely kosher. I'm glad you shared their open letter because I would not have seen Joseph Farrell's RT interview (linked above) if you didn't. Always interesting to hear a middle class British socialist so casually dismiss the fact that the abstention rate was at least 55%, as though it is normal for governments to rule without genuine popular consent. I have no doubt that Maduro won the most votes among the minority of voters who bothered to participate, but the low turnout is what makes it dubious when he and his supporters claim a "landslide" victory (in contrast to 2006, for example, when Chávez indisputably won a real landslide).

It would be more credible if some of these observers were not outspoken Chavistas. I'm sure their letter will convince other Maduro fans, but it only takes a few minutes of research to see that these are not impartial observers and should not be presented as such.
 

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Elections were totally rigged Maduro isn't a legitimate president, apart from being a narco and a murder. Worst regime in Latin America's history, must be toppled by all means.
 

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And for those who think I am exaggerating or it is fearmongering, and this can't happen .. you haven't lived through USSR collapse. Any thought of USSR having any problems would not even cross one's mind until around 1986. And then , gradually, there was that increasing feeling of disintegrating society, of people losing their faith and values, losing whatever made them people of the same country, starting to look for enemies inside the country among yesterday's neighbours, starting to look at how to get more while working less. And stupid leaders trying to change too many things too fast.
Changes could be good. But fast changes based on dismissing things that were sacred for generations kills the moral foundation, as people start to feel that there is nothing they can hold onto.
I recognize the same processes happening now in USA. You think nothing bad can happen to the country you live in, because it existed for so long and is so strong abd great. So was I back in 1985.
The main difference IMO is that the USSR contained 15 different nationalities, the USA merges everyone into the English-speaking American mould so separatism and nationalism internally isn't so strong a factor that could pull it apart, certainly in the USSR it was a factor in the Baltics.
 

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This is an overly simplistic, and probably sarcastic approach to the situation. This issue needs to be resolved by Venezuela as a free country. You like it or not, Maduro still has a very strong democratic support as shown last year (his government can keep up with the 6 million votes mark). The US will lean not towards helping Venezuela overcome its crisis but to set yet another foot in LA, where Venezuela is a key strategic spot not only due to its oil reserves but also because of its alignment with China and Russia.

OP has a point on US meddling although he doesn't cover the whole situation.
Do you really think that 6 million people voted for Maduro? Socialism is that, misery, death and hunger, ah I forgot, useful idiots who defend it
 

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Do you really think that 6 million people voted for Maduro? Socialism is that, misery, death and hunger, ah I forgot, useful idiots who defend it
Yes that's why the US spent trillions on 60 or so coups in Latin America to overthrow it, because it doesn't work

How's capitalism working for Argentina, another bankruptcy this year because the capitalists are allowed to plunder the country mercilessly?
 

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Yes that's why the US spent trillions on 60 or so coups in Latin America to overthrow it, because it doesn't work

How's capitalism working for Argentina, another bankruptcy this year because the capitalists are allowed to plunder the country mercilessly?
Capitalism in Argentina? What the fuck? For 70 years, Argentina's slogan is "fighting capital" and unfortunately they have fought it. That's the problem, the stupid socialism that takes money from working people and gives it to parasites. That is socialism.
 

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Yes that's why the US spent trillions on 60 or so coups in Latin America to overthrow it, because it doesn't work

How's capitalism working for Argentina, another bankruptcy this year because the capitalists are allowed to plunder the country mercilessly?
And the one who believes that in Latin America socialism was successful is because he is a complete idiot
 
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