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jazz_girl

Discussion Starter · Aug 17, 2005

Ok, I thought it might be better to start the thread a while before it starts, because he'll probably lose in the first or second round, so there won't be much posting going on

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gooner88

· #2 · Aug 17, 2005

jazz_girl said:
Ok, I thought it might be better to start the thread a while before it starts, because he'll probably lose in the first or second round, so there won't be much posting going on

:lol:
The U.S Open is the last tourney where Nalbo can get some big points for a while.
Over the years he's always his best results at slams so there's some hope at least.
I really feel that Nalbo's career is at a crossroads. He needs to analyse what is missing and get a high quality coach that can improve him for the better. I still feel someone like Gilbert should be Nalbo's coach.
He should be solid Top 10 and go deep in the big tourneys like TMS's more regularly.

jazz_girl

Discussion Starter · #3 · Aug 17, 2005

I want him with a coach now, I don't care who he is. I would even be ok with Gilbert :lol: :devil:
Am I being too pessimistic?
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=49515

gooner88

· #4 · Aug 17, 2005

jazz_girl said:
I want him with a coach now, I don't care who he is. I would even be ok with Gilbert :lol: :devil:
Am I being too pessimistic?
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=49515

Just a little.

But with the way Nalbo's been playing at the moment all us fans are pessimistic about his chances in New York.

sigmagirl91

· #5 · Aug 17, 2005

I am fully expecting an outburst on par with the one from last year. He's due.

Kiank

· #6 · Aug 18, 2005

David needs to call Gilbert right away. Gilbert will say "yes" with a lot of enthusiasm. Next move David should consider would be moving away from Argentina for a while to fully concentrate on tennis. If Gilbert is not an option for David, then he should consider some other foreign specialist.

gooner88

· #7 · Aug 18, 2005

Kiank said:
David needs to call Gilbert right away. Gilbert will say "yes" with a lot of enthusiasm. Next move David should consider would be moving away from Argentina for a while to fully concentrate on tennis. If Gilbert is not an option for David, then he should consider some other foreign specialist.

He's already moved away from Argentina; he's away on tour for most of the year.

I agree with you about Gilbert though. Gilbert has always said after A-Rod sacked him that he wouldn't coach again unless the right challenge came along, and I think Nalbo is the 'right challenge' for him. Nalbo is solid Top 10 and has had a very good career up to now, but he needs to make the right move to go onto the next level.
Just look what he did with Andre and A-Rod!

Kiank

· #8 · Aug 18, 2005

gooner88 said:
He's already moved away from Argentina; he's away on tour for most of the year.

Unfortunately he's not - how many matches he played in the last 6 weeks, - enjoying the rest of time at home with his friends, asados and race cars in the middle of the hard court season - he needs to really sacrifice couple of years away from home to achieve some serious results.
Gilbert will not teach David how to serve well, but he's a strong mental coach and therefore would be a right choice for David. However, I doubt David will contact him. Something tells me he's not ready for radical changes yet, and he would rather choose a local coach. But I'd be happy to be wrong.

justClaudia

· #9 · Aug 18, 2005

jazz_girl said:
I want him with a coach now, I don't care who he is. I would even be ok with Gilbert :lol: :devil:
Am I being too pessimistic?
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=49515

Jazz, I feel the same way

Brad Gilbert or not..I don't give a damn about it.
He needs someone,soon.

I would really love to hear Rosie's opinion about this.
I always love to know what she thinks.

gooner88

· #10 · Aug 18, 2005

Kiank said:
Unfortunately he's not - how many matches he played in the last 6 weeks, - enjoying the rest of time at home with his friends, asados and race cars in the middle of the hard court season - he needs to really sacrifice couple of years away from home to achieve some serious results.
Gilbert will not teach David how to serve well, but he's a strong mental coach and therefore would be a right choice for David. However, I doubt David will contact him. Something tells me he's not ready for radical changes yet, and he would rather choose a local coach. But I'd be happy to be wrong.

I agree with you on the coaching situation, but not about him migrating from his home to further his career. I think that's an over-reaction to Nalbo's current bad form.
Home is where he grew up, where his family is and where he feels most comfortable. Nearly all the top players live in their own countries, and the ones that don't live in Monte Carlo for Tax reasons.
Recently he hasn't been on tour much, but he's got a packed schedule from the U.S Open onwards. He's currently going through a bad patch of form, but form is temporary and class is permanent.

sigmagirl91

· #11 · Aug 18, 2005

Kiank said:
David needs to call Gilbert right away. Gilbert will say "yes" with a lot of enthusiasm. Next move David should consider would be moving away from Argentina for a while to fully concentrate on tennis. If Gilbert is not an option for David, then he should consider some other foreign specialist.

You know, it just may help.

jazz_girl

Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 18, 2005

Markus's back with Massu, so there's no way he will train David.

frula08

· #13 · Aug 19, 2005

the days are passing, and hour after hour i am more convinced that gilbert is the best option.
but i think that is not an easy decision for him, and he need time to take it, not do like coria with markus, and then stop working with a coach after 2 matches.

Kiank

· #14 · Aug 19, 2005

gooner88 said:
I agree with you on the coaching situation, but not about him migrating from his home to further his career. I think that's an over-reaction to Nalbo's current bad form.
Home is where he grew up, where his family is and where he feels most comfortable. Nearly all the top players live in their own countries, and the ones that don't live in Monte Carlo for Tax reasons.
Recently he hasn't been on tour much, but he's got a packed schedule from the U.S Open onwards. He's currently going through a bad patch of form, but form is temporary and class is permanent.

No, I'm not over-reacting to his current performance, I always thought settling for few years in the US, for example, would be a smart move from David. He is generally admired in his own town, everybody wants to be his friend and calls him a hero, and that's too much for a young man like David. He doesn't yet achieve what he could if he was more career-oriented.

sigmagirl91

· #15 · Aug 19, 2005

Kiank said:
No, I'm not over-reacting to his current performance, I always thought settling for few years in the US, for example, would be a smart move from David. He is generally admired in his own town, everybody wants to be his friend and calls him a hero, and that's too much for a young man like David. He doesn't yet achieve what he could if he was more career-oriented.

If not the US, then somewhere else. You do what you have to do to further your career. The myriad distractions are way too much, and it doesn't help that David has people around him who say "yes" to him all the time. That certainly cannot help.

gooner88

· #16 · Aug 19, 2005

jazz_girl said:
Markus's back with Massu, so there's no way he will train David.

After the way Massu played against Henman on Monday, he needed a coach even more urgently than Nalbo. :devil: That was the worst I've ever seen him play.
Kiank I just don't see how moving away from Argentina would further enhance Nalbo's career. He'd inevitably get homesick, and that would hinder his career not enhance it. Being a tennis player means that you're away from home for long periods every year anyway.
Hopefully the new coach, whoever he is can provide Nalbo a fresh start and push him in a better direction.

lau

· #17 · Aug 19, 2005 (Edited)

gooner88 said:
After the way Massu played against Henman on Monday, he needed a coach even more urgently than Nalbo. :devil: That was the worst I've ever seen him play.
Kiank I just don't see how moving away from Argentina would further enhance Nalbo's career. He'd inevitably get homesick, and that would hinder his career not enhance it. Being a tennis player means that you're away from home for long periods every year anyway.
Hopefully the new coach, whoever he is can provide Nalbo a fresh start and push him in a better direction.

:yeah:

He`s already away from home most of the year.
In fact, moving away from home is one of the biggest problems that pro tennis players (specially juniors) have to face when they are from a country without facilities. Of course..., we all know the sucessfull cases...

On the other side..., I don´t think Gilbert will be David`s next coach. Apart from how much I "dislike"

Gilbert, latin players are totally different from american players. It just doesn´t make much sense to me, to tell you the truth... I might be wrong, but I don´t see David working with Gilbert in the future.
But, of course, as I previously said, I might be wrong :lol:

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jazz_girl

Discussion Starter · #18 · Aug 19, 2005

I completly agree with gooner and lau :worship:

:worship:

Kiank

· #19 · Aug 19, 2005

And I am with SigmaGirl in the moving question.
Lau, I don't see David as a Latin player. He is not by nature, if you understand what I mean. A true tennis star with a champion's mindset is never a pure Latin or American or anything else. Look at Agassi or Federer - they somehow belong to the world. Of course, David is not there yet. I like and support many of the Latin players, but I always felt like David was different from all of them.

jazz_girl

Discussion Starter · #20 · Aug 19, 2005

David should change his attitude not the place where he's living. He should have a dicipline if he wants to achieve great things, like winning a slam or being N°1, and that's something you do by not just wanting it, but doing something about it. You can be in the US, Argentina, Europe, China or Hawaii, and still have a dicipline. Unfourtunatly, that's something David doesn't have at the moment.

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