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A lot of posters have recently been pointing out the differences in Nadals hard court success in comparison to clay, also his H2Hs on fast to medium hardcourt.

Yet at US Open Nadal has had quite a bit of success.

Is US Open Nadal a different beast in comparison to the rest of his game? Or is it him dodging Djokovic or Federer or any other player of note.

What do you think?
 

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Nadal is a very good player on hard courts too and the US Open has been always a tournament where it's also important the physical shape.
 

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  1. Well he did beat Novak en route to two of his USO titles, fair and square. He is just incredibly devoted and focused on a goal he sets his eyes on. In 2010. he completely changed his serving motion working with Oscar Borras to make himself a proper title candidate. In 2013. he had a bit more on his BH, both in terms of power and placement (those ultra short CC ones). In 2017. there was a slight drop in the quality of the field, but kudos for being the last man standing, and the last one, we have seen him onve again serving well, shortening the pts when available and some overall good HC play. In the absence of his great rivals he IS always the favorite. There aren't any HC specialists that would threaten him, unless someone talented with all shots and tricks up bis sleeve mans up and plays a match of their life+afterlife. Just loads of confidence and self-belief combined with relentless hard work, and most important of all, never ever looking back or too much forward, just the next guy.
 

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He wants it more than his opponent doesn't want him to have it. Like a more talented version of Hewitt but with the same kind of competitive edge. He's the John Wick of tennis imo. ?
 

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Refreshing thread that has never been made.

Being good enough just isn't an option anymore, is it.
 

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You never win grand slam with luck,never.
Again, it is Rafa's fault that Novak got injured? or Fed was awful against Dimitrov? Or the rest of the field lost to mugs?
Yes his QF and SF were a bit joke, Medvedev was togth opponent but Rafa really was very good at this USO , good ground strokes and serve
 

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Pretty stupid thread, given your recent one about let's give Rafa and djok more love, and less to the old man.

But I'll answer you anyway--different HC, different time of year. He beat Djok here twice, in 4 sets, in finals.
Djok wasn't good enough to make the finals in 2017 and 2019. That means Nadal was better those years too.
 

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Completely circumstantıal. Nadal's AO level has been higher than his Us Open level most of the time imo. He got tougher opponents and was also a bit unlucky at AO. His last two US open draws when he won was ridiculously easy, he also got soft draws when he was in peak form in 2010 and 2013. Ideally he should have won one extra AO (2014) but should have stayed at 2 Us Opens.
 

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Rafa is a good enough player on HC to win 1 or 2 US Opens.
4 is pure luck.
And it is a travesty that he has 1 more USO than Djokovic, and just 1 less USO than Pete and Fed, while being so much inferior on the surface.
 

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All his bad luck in AO is countered by admittedly a lot of good luck in USO so it cancels out
 
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