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Following the great idea of than Keyser Soze with his great Bucharest thread (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=618170), I will tell some details about qualifying matches in Barcelona.

Sunday and Saturday reports are included in this thread, that means all the qualifying matches :)

Sunday reports

James Ward defeats Rui Machado by 6-2 6-3

I have to say that Ward raised his level of play from yesterday's match, but he didn't show anything special. He didn't need to do it since Rui Machado continued his Saturday trend of making unforced errors, so Ward didn't need to play at a very high level to win the match. James was hitting good the forehand, but nothing special on his game to see him going further on clay.

Andrey Rublev defeats Norbert Gombos by 7-6(4) 6-3

Rublev is an awesome prospect and a very talented player despite his age. However, I have the feeling that Gombos could have won that. I see lot of variety and an awesome and huge talent in Rublev's game but he is still a young guy that struggles with big hitters. Gombos was a break up in both sets; he was serving for the set at 5*-3 and he was a break up in 3*-2 up in the second set (he lost 4 consecutive games since then). Today he was more erratic than what he should. Rublev was clutch and very focused, I wouldn't tell that he is better than Gombos these days but he will be better than players of the likes of Gombos in a very few time. He only needs to continue developing his tennis. The guy almost won a point where he answered a lob with a backwards volley very far from the net (like almost in the baseline), after that magical shot he made the unforced with a routine forehand winner put in the net. Verdasco should defeat him in straight sets.

De Bakker defeats Peter Torebko by 7-5 6-4

I didn't watch the match so I don't know what happened out there. Puschkin (who I had the pleasure to meet) told me that nothing special.

Marton Fucsovics defeats Kenny De Schepper by 4-6 6-4 7-6(2)

Easily the best match of the qualifying rounds and one of the best matches that I have seen in the latter weeks. Both players performed at a high level: Kenny de Schepper has a better serve, better net skills and better slice shot but Fucsovics is a better mover, has a better backhand and is a powerful player. So the plot was Fucsovics moving Kenny and hitting some awesome forehands that were difficult to answer even on clay. Backhand for Fucsovics worked as well. Kenny was clutch and he was triying to resist the aggression from Fucsovics with deep backhand slices. At the end of the match, Kenny had his chances with 2 match points on Fucsovics serve (Marton was all the time with second serves as he was really nervous) but Marton saved them: one by a long shot of Kenny and the other one by a monster forehand from Marton. In the tie break, Fucsovics took the early lead and since then Kenny started to make unforceds. The result is kinda fair because Marton was the better player in overall, but Kenny could have perfectly won because he is more experienced and played with more patience and showing more experience. Happy for Marton, who played a great match against Thiem last year in FQR.

Yuichi Sugita defeats Oriol Roca Batalla by 6-1 6-3

Didn't watch the match, but surprised to see Sugita doing that well on clay. Oriol is a good clay player, but Sugita is a player with a better level of tennis in overall.

Jaume Munar defeats Pedro Cachin by 6-2 7-5

Good performance from Munar, who is the biggest young prospect from Spain. However, I still don't see nothing that tells me he is gonna be a TOP player. His forehand is good but the other shots are not really special at the moment. Anyway, I guess he will be TOP100 for sure. He fighted hard today against Cachin but Pedro was erratic and chocked several times, missing opportunities to break and gifting some service games.

Saturday reports

Ward defeats Eduard Guell Bartrina by 6-4 5-7 6-3

Good match from Eduard, who has a good serve and flat forehand, so he is not the typical Spanish player. Eduard was playing out of his heart while Ward was playing more erratic and not at his full level, but I don't know if this was because he is not in a good shape or because he was relaxed. Either way, he didn't look good, but in the third set he raised his level a little bit. However, I do have to say that the error came because of a bad drop shot from Eduard. But in overall the match was of good quality and attacking tennis, I would say that it was the best one that I saw during the day. By the way, I bet Eduard to make 3 games or more @2.00 at Bet365, free money since he won 14 games. Incredible to see that favoritism in Ward when playing on clay.

Rui Machado defeats Javier Marti by 4-6 7-6(3) 6-4

Irregular match from both players, with some good quality points as well as some epic misses (specially Rui Machado, who made some Djokovesque smashes and bad net points - but he was very successful with the drop shots). In the second set there were some changes of dominance between players but finally Machado made it to the tie break, and since then he ruled the match until the end. He was more consistent from the baseline and stronger from his backhand wing. Good victory for the Portuguese over a tricky opponent like Javier.

Norbert Gombos defeats David Marrero by 7-5 6-1

Gombos was the superior player in every moment. Great serve, flat and accurate forehands that were forcing Marrero to play at his limit and make forced errors. David still managed to keep the match equal until the last moments of the first set. Then in the second it was a total demolition from Gombos, who played better, served better and hit stronger. Marrero gave up when NOrbert broke twice.

Andrey Rublev defeats Jesse Huta Galung by 6-3 4-1 ret

Great display of tennis from the young star. He dominated Huta Galung during the match and he made the Dutch to look as the "junior player" instead of him. Andrey was hitting well from both wings, and I am surprised to see that he has a fairly powerful serve despite his little and body who does not look very strong. That pace on the ball probably is because of how clean he hits the ball. About the retirement, in the last couple of games Huta Galung wasn't moving a lot (and Rublev wasn't moving as well because he was winning the points almost walking) and Jesse was making some bad unforceds with his one-handed backhand. Didn't look something serious, he simply gave up after the break between games (so I guess he though about wether retiring or not because if he had that idea clear in his mind he would have done it before the match break).

Huta Galung was supposed to play doubles qualifyings with Andujar but they withdrew, so I guess that the injury was real. By the way, Huta Galung was defending doubles title in Barcelona with Stephane Robert.

Thiemo de Bakker defeats Richard Becker by 6-4 3-6 6-3

No idea about what happened, I was watching Nishikori's practice. Nishikori was in a court next to the one of that match and I saw both de Bakker and Becker hitting some balls, but nothing as clear as to make any conclusion. The only thing that I can say is that de Bakker outfit is nice.

Peter Torebko defeats Jaume Pla Malfeito by 6-2 6-1

Didn't watch it, just walked near the match and had a fast look, it looks like Torebko was hammering a Futures player without big weapons.

Kenny de Schepper defeats Marek Michalicka by 6-1 6-2

Great match from Kenny. Serve really worked and he was outpulaying Michalicka both from the forehand and backhand side. Forehand for Kenny was great, Kenny's backhand lacks of pace but today it was deep enough to be a good shot. But we can't make big conclusions since Michalicka played bad and made a weak performance during all the match.

Marton Fucsovics defeats Gerard Granollers by 6-3 6-4

Didn't watch it as I was in Ward - Guell match. But the result doesn't surprise me a lot, Fucsovics is a dangerous player with powerful strokes while Granollers brother lacks of any particular damaging weapon. Last year Fucsovics played the qualies here as well and made a good performance versus Thiem.

Yuichi Sugita defeats Juan Lizariturry by 6-1 6-0

Demolition from Sugita against a clay court specialist, that says it all. Simply the gap of level between them was too big, Juan isn't having good results lately and today was just as bad as to get breadsticked and bageled by a player with as weak return as Sugita. But I have to say that Juan serve is weak as well, so that puts the balance. The forehand of Sugita was enough to determinate the outcome of the match.

Oriol Roca Batalla defeats Miloslav Mecir by 7-5 6-2

Didn't watch it, I was in Javier Marti versus Rui Machado match. But I have to say that Oriol Roca Batalla is a good baseline player and his game works good on clay so I am not very surprised about this result. That outcome would maybe have been different in another surface. I saw Roca Batalla in the crowd of several matches, he spent the day therea after winning his match.

Jaume Munar defeats Daniel Muñoz De La Nava by 6-3 5-4 ret

Didn't watch it, I was watching Nishikori and outside courts matches, no idea about what happened. Jaume Munar is one of the Spanish players with the most margin of progression but I haven't seen him in live yet, maybe tomorrow is the day.

Pedro Cachín defeats Jaroslav Pospisil by 6-4 6(3)-7 6-3

Pedro was simply the better player with the better baseline play (specially with his forehand), but credit to Pospisil. He was clutch and tried his best in every point until the end. He took profit of some turbulences in Cachin game in the second set and won it in a fairly way, but he didn't play the game to win the whole match. Cachín looks like a promising prospect, I already saw him making the final of the Futures of my city some months ago. He has improved since then, but Corretja wasn't in the crowd today so I don't know if he still works with Pedro.

Sunday thoughts

(That was written on Saturday)

James Ward versus Rui Machado: I see Machado with chances to defeat Ward given what I saw today. Machado was erratic but he can be a consistent player from the baseline. Ward look bad today and from what I saw I cannot tell if Ward's version of today is his current level or not. But if Ward follows the trend I can see Machado taking it. After all Machado's game works better on clay than Ward's game. If Ward raises his level, that can be a different story because Machado can be prone to errors.

Kenny de Schepper versus Marton Fucsovics: Very interesting match, I will watch it for sure. I don't know how good was Fucsovics today because I didn't watch his match, but Kenny was good. Kenny is a better server than Marton and has more match experience, but Fucsovics has a more aggresive baseline play and better movement. Kenny will need to serve well and try to win the points in a fast fashion. Fucsovics has more firepower and a better backhand.

Yuichi Sugita versus Roca Batalla: Difficult to tell since I didn't watch those guys playing today. Roca Batalla plays at home and has a better clay game, so that can make the difference. Oriol will have his chances to make it as long as he makes the points longer and longer. Yuichi needs to serve good and be aggresive.

Norbert Gombos versus Andrey Rublev: Today both players made a good performance, so that can be an excellent match. Big hitters often are difficult from teenagers, and despite the fact that Rublev looks good, Gombos is a more experienced player. Rublev needs to find the way to deal with Gombos amazing serve and powerful forehand.

Thiemo de Bakker versus Peter Torebko: Didn't watch them playing, but De Bakker should make it. Torebko played against a weaker opponent than De Bakker and Thiemo has more powerful weapons and better clay game.

Jaume Munar versus Pedro Cachin: Didn't watch Munar, he is a good prospect and Cachin had some lapses today, so Jaume can have some chances tomorrow. But Cachín is playing really good, he has a high level and more experience so he is the favourite. But tomorrow Jaume will receive a huge support so you never know what will happen.



Have a good weekend guys!
 

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Re: Barcelona Qualifying - Saturday reports and Sunday thoughts

Good report! Yes Cachin is still working with Corretja
 
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Thank you for this great report.

Cachin has too much game for Munar [at this point] and Kenny far more experience than Fucso, on clay.

Vamos Kenny. Vamos Pedro.


My thoughts for R1, R2 in Rafa's section.

R1: [Q] Kenny def. Verdasco 6-7(4) 7-6(11) 7-5 [Kenny saves 6MP]

R2: [Q] Kenny def. Fognini 7-6(13) 6-0 [Hopefully a golden set from Kenny]

R3: [Q] Kenny vs Rafa - This one seems though even to predict. 50/50. A coin toss.

Nadal has to defeat 2 byes to face Kenny (bye1 and bye2Almagro)


Hopefully it rains only tomorrow in Barcelona [bad forecast].

Rumours say that Kenny's mood on court depends on the weather.

'Toni better prays

that it rains'
 

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Great thesis, 10/10
 

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Very nice. Not sure how long will this tradition of quali reports continue, but it's really refreshing and a good read :yeah:
 
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ugh, Fucsovics won today. :( at least Rublev's through, will be interesting to see him in the MD.

nice reports, mate!
 
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Rublev landing on Verdasco. Will be a painful lesson, but a lesson still.
 
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Thank you very much guys!

Rublev landing on Verdasco. Will be a painful lesson, but a lesson still.
Indeed, a lesson that will be good for Rublev because defeats help to improve weaknesses.

ugh, Fucsovics won today. :( at least Rublev's through, will be interesting to see him in the MD.

nice reports, mate!
Kenny :( Yes it will be, I expect him to lose against Verdasco but let's see if he can take a set. By the way, Kenny lost last year against Verdasco, if Rublev repeats the trend then that would mean that Rublev is as good prospect as De Schepper :cool:

Very nice. Not sure how long will this tradition of quali reports continue, but it's really refreshing and a good read :yeah:
Yes, I enjoyed those kind of threads a lot in the past so it was my turn to give my feedback. I hope to do it next year as well. Qualifying rounds are underrated and a nice experience: cheap and modest tennis between guys that fight with all what they have in order to win money, points and have a chance to take some glory in the Main Draw.

Great thesis, 10/10
Thanks Groove :)

Good report! Yes Cachin is still working with Corretja
Thanks VamosHoracio! I haven't followed Cachin progression since he was a finalist of my local Futures tournament, so I didn't know how was his relationship between him and Corretja. I hope Alex continues helping him to develop his game.

Thank you for this great report.

Cachin has too much game for Munar [at this point] and Kenny far more experience than Fucso, on clay.

Vamos Kenny. Vamos Pedro.


My thoughts for R1, R2 in Rafa's section.

R1: [Q] Kenny def. Verdasco 6-7(4) 7-6(11) 7-5 [Kenny saves 6MP]

R2: [Q] Kenny def. Fognini 7-6(13) 6-0 [Hopefully a golden set from Kenny]

R3: [Q] Kenny vs Rafa - This one seems though even to predict. 50/50. A coin toss.

Nadal has to defeat 2 byes to face Kenny (bye1 and bye2Almagro)


Hopefully it rains only tomorrow in Barcelona [bad forecast].

Rumours say that Kenny's mood on court depends on the weather.

'Toni better prays

that it rains'
Great post mate, you proved yourself as a true unbiased analyst of the game :worship: Finally Kenny tanked, he doesn't to demoralize Rafa, that's a job for Djokovic. Kenny won't do the job for him if Novak doesn't give him a 40% of his Roland Garros prize money.
 

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I update the thread with the Sunday reports. I won't attend to the tournament until the R16 and there the reports are not really necesary (if I follow an specific match player on outside courts I will open an independent thread), so I guess that I won't start a thread like that until the next year :lol:

Sunday reports

James Ward defeats Rui Machado by 6-2 6-3

I have to say that Ward raised his level of play from yesterday's match, but he didn't show anything special. He didn't need to do it since Rui Machado continued his Saturday trend of making unforced errors, so Ward didn't need to play at a very high level to win the match. James was hitting good the forehand, but nothing special on his game to see him going further on clay.

Andrey Rublev defeats Norbert Gombos by 7-6(4) 6-3

Rublev is an awesome prospect and a very talented player despite his age. However, I have the feeling that Gombos could have won that. I see lot of variety and an awesome and huge talent in Rublev's game but he is still a young guy that struggles with big hitters. Gombos was a break up in both sets; he was serving for the set at 5*-3 and he was a break up in 3*-2 up in the second set (he lost 4 consecutive games since then). Today he was more erratic than what he should. Rublev was clutch and very focused, I wouldn't tell that he is better than Gombos these days but he will be better than players of the likes of Gombos in a very few time. He only needs to continue developing his tennis. The guy almost won a point where he answered a lob with a backwards volley very far from the net (like almost in the baseline), after that magical shot he made the unforced with a routine forehand winner put in the net. Verdasco should defeat him in straight sets.

De Bakker defeats Peter Torebko by 7-5 6-4

I didn't watch the match so I don't know what happened out there. Puschkin (who I had the pleasure to meet) told me that nothing special.

Marton Fucsovics defeats Kenny De Schepper by 4-6 6-4 7-6(2)

Easily the best match of the qualifying rounds and one of the best matches that I have seen in the latter weeks. Both players performed at a high level: Kenny de Schepper has a better serve, better net skills and better slice shot but Fucsovics is a better mover, has a better backhand and is a powerful player. So the plot was Fucsovics moving Kenny and hitting some awesome forehands that were difficult to answer even on clay. Backhand for Fucsovics worked as well. Kenny was clutch and he was triying to resist the aggression from Fucsovics with deep backhand slices. At the end of the match, Kenny had his chances with 2 match points on Fucsovics serve (Marton was all the time with second serves as he was really nervous) but Marton saved them: one by a long shot of Kenny and the other one by a monster forehand from Marton. In the tie break, Fucsovics took the early lead and since then Kenny started to make unforceds. The result is kinda fair because Marton was the better player in overall, but Kenny could have perfectly won because he is more experienced and played with more patience and showing more experience. Happy for Marton, who played a great match against Thiem last year in FQR.

Yuichi Sugita defeats Oriol Roca Batalla by 6-1 6-3

Didn't watch the match, but surprised to see Sugita doing that well on clay. Oriol is a good clay player, but Sugita is a player with a better level of tennis in overall.

Jaume Munar defeats Pedro Cachin by 6-2 7-5

Good performance from Munar, who is the biggest young prospect from Spain. However, I still don't see nothing that tells me he is gonna be a TOP player. His forehand is good but the other shots are not really special at the moment. Anyway, I guess he will be TOP100 for sure. He fighted hard today against Cachin but Pedro was erratic and chocked several times, missing opportunities to break and gifting some service games.
 

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Good reports. :yeah:

I also heard about this Munar guy. So, he isn't expected to be a top player too? Jeez, Spain may enter a terrible era in the 2020's.
 

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Good reports. :yeah:

I also heard about this Munar guy. So, he isn't expected to be a top player too? Jeez, Spain may enter a terrible era in the 2020's.
Indeed, Spanish tennis will decline in a few years like happened with Sweden and Australia. But maybe the situation will end as long as kids that grew up watching Nadal and Ferrer become professionals. Difficult to tell.

As for Munar, he looks like he will be a good player if he keeps his progression, but what I tried to point is that for the moment I don't see nothing really special on his game so I don't think he will be, let's say, a big star. Every big star has a particular big weapon, and even if Munar has some good shots I wouldn't tell that he really surprised me in a particular aspect.
 

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great stuff!!

but jaume pla does have weapons!!

yeah, marc lopez got a qwc this time as well
 

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think i saw him losing in livescores last saturday
 
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