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Tennis Tipping- Nice​

What is Tennis Tipping?

In the game, participants pick the winners of all main draw matches (and sometimes some qualifying draw matches) and are placed in a knock-out system. That means each participant plays a different participant and whoever predicted the winner of most matches correctly, moves on to the next round. The same applies for doubles, but you're in a team format and your scores are combined.

Note:

- In case of a tie, a tie-breaker will decide who moves on to the next round.

- In case a player (i.e. the actual ATP Player) retires in a match, this match will be counted as long as one point has been played. If players are replaced by a lucky loser after the start of Tennis Tipping, these matches will be cancelled.

Please read the new TT rules change:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=361649&page=5 (post #61)

How to Sign-Up:

Just post here that you would like to play. You can only play one tournament per week. Entries will be based on ranking. Everyone can commit.

Please read this post for more information
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=137927

How to send in picks:

Picks can be sent in as soon as the draws are ready. Remember, you pick a winner in every match! Picks should be sent by PM, so that your opponent does not know your picks. Picks should be titled: TT SYDNEY ***DAY. Picks can be sent in anytime until the beginning of play each day, or in special cases until the deadline set by the manager in order to benefit the majority. If you're still in both singles & doubles, you use the same tips for both. For doubles, you still tip the ATP singles matches, not the doubles! No changes can be made after the play has started.


PRECAUTIONARY MEASURE


If the board goes down as has happened before, send your picks to [email protected]
 

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Thread Organization


Pre-tournament:

TT Entry List : post #
Main draw: post #

QD Singles: post #
MD Singles: post #

QD Doubles: post #
MD Doubles: post #

Tournament:

Saturday:
OOP: post #
Differences: post #
Results: post #

Sunday:
OOP: post #
Differences: post #
Results: post #

Monday:
OOP: post #
Differences: post #
Results: post #

Tuesday:
OOP: post #
Differences: post #
Results: post #

Wednesday:
OOP: post #
Differences: post #
Results: post #

Thursday:
OOP: post #
Differences: post #
Results: post #

Friday:
OOP: post #
Differences: post #
Results: post #

Saturday:
OOP: post #
Differences: post #
Results: post #

Sunday:
OOP: post #
Differences: post #
Results: post #
 

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Fact Sheet
 

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Singles Draw

F
Match counted: 3
Match remaining: 0


02:02 | jahrastaman_BR (BRA) vs. gak3 (ESP) #SRs: 2-1


SF
Match counted: 4
Match remaining: 0


02:02 | (1) sergiodmm (BRA) vs. jahrastaman_BR (BRA) #SRs: 0-0 - ShootOutSR4 (Set given to Delbonis)
02:01 | gak3 (ESP) vs. Euroquitter (GER) #SRs: 1-0


QF
Match counted: 8
Match remaining: 0


06:06 | (1) sergiodmm (BRA) vs. (8) Marita (ARG) #SRs: 3-3 - Tie with PTS (64 sergiodmm/ 62 marita) - CB: 10 winners all - 5 SR to 4 for sergiodmm
07:06 | jahrastaman_BR (BRA) vs. (Q) Peta Pan (AUS) #SRs: 3-4
07:06 | gak3 (ESP) vs. savesthedizzle (USA) #SRs: 3-4
05:06 | *Rafael Reis (BRA) vs. Euroquitter (GER) #SRs: 3-2



Second Round
Match counted: 5
Match remaining: 0


05:03 | (1) sergiodmm (BRA) vs. Mahqz (GER) #SRs: 2-2
03:05 | (Q) dannyrafter (BRA) vs. (8) Marita (ARG) #SRs: 3-2
05:05 | (5) Tytta!. (BRA) vs. jahrastaman_BR (BRA) #SRs: 2-2. PTS 1 Thiem 76
04:05 | Kissing_Rain (CHI) vs. (Q) Peta Pan (AUS) #SRs: 2-4

05:05 | Cava (CZE) vs. gak3 (ESP) #SRs: 1-2
05:03 | savesthedizzle (USA) vs. (7) acionescu (ROU) #SRs: 1-1
05:05 | (Q) JMG (MON) vs. Rafael Reis (BRA) #SRs: 3-3 - No CB diffs. No GD. Win with Raning
05:05 | Euroquitter (GER) vs. (2) keqtqiadv (BRA) #SRs: 3-2



First Round
Match counted: 5
Match remaining: 0


05:04 | (1) sergiodmm (bra) vs. bry17may (GUA) #SRs: 3-2
04:05 | Cesar Luiz (BRA) vs. Mahqz (GER) #SRs: 1-3
04:03 | (Q) dannyrafter (BRA) vs. guille&tati4life (GRE) #SRs: 1-1
05:05 | Chris 84 (ECO) vs. (8) Marita (ARG) #SRs: 2-2 (PTS 2: Mahut 63)

05:05 | (5) Tytta!. (BRA) vs. (Q) juakos17 (CHI) #SRs: 3-2
05:05 | jahrastaman_BR (BRA) vs. mcarvalho (POR) #SRs: 3-2
05:05 | Kissing_Rain (CHN) vs. *cserkinho (AUT) #SRs: 3-2
05:05 | (Q) Peta Pan (AUS) vs. (3) joe87 (AUT) #SRs: 3-2

05:05 | (4) Equalizer (MON) vs. Cava (CZE) #SRs: 2-3
05:05 | gak3 (ESP) vs. Dudisela75 (CAN) #SRs: 3-2
05:05 | savesthedizzle (USA) vs. Holmzy (IRL) #SRs: 3-1
05:05 | mateusz2904 (POL) vs. (7) acionescu (ROU) #SRs: 2-2 (PTS2: Mahut 63)

05:05 | (6) VamosRafaNadal (ESP) vs. (Q) JMG (MON) #SRs: 2-3
05:05 | catgamer* (GER) vs. *Rafael Reis (BRA) #SRs: 3-3 (PTS 2: Vaisse 76)
05:05 | Euroquitter (GER) vs. Cazorla (UKR) #SRs: 2-2 (GD 4: 1-3)
05:05 | Ricardo Soler (BRA) vs. (2) keqtqiadv (BRA) #SRs: 3-3 (PTS 4: Mayer 63)


Qualification Final Round
Match counted: 6
Match remaining: 0


04:04 | [b(1) Peta Pan (AUS)[/b] vs. Deathless Mortal (CRO) #SRs: 4-2
04:04 | (LL) JMG (GER) vs. (6) Mesut Ozil (POR) #SRs: 3-2
04:04 | (3) Eland (NED) vs. dannyrafter (BRA) #SRs: 4-4 - win with CB
04:04 | Zberg (NED) vs. (5) juakos17 (CHI) #SRs: 2-4


LL:
1. Eland (NED) 4 correct SR
3 players with 2 correct SR - no one picked either a set for roger vasselin 63 or 61. So all go to CB
2. Zberg 10 winners in previous round
3. Deathless Mortal 9 winners in PR
4. Mesut Osil 8 winners in PR

Qualification First Round
Match counted: 15
Match remaining: 0


10:00 | (1) Peta Pan (AUS) vs. BYE (BYE) #SRs: 7-0
09:09 | Deathless Mortal (CRO) vs. (8) bavaria100 (GER) #SRs: 7-7, Shootout: SR2
09:10 | (9) jmjhb (GBR) vs. (LL) JMG (GER) #SRs: 6-8
08:08 | balloon (SIN) vs. (6) Mesut Ozil (POR) #SRs: 5-7

09:08 | (3) Eland (NED) vs. 6 Pool (LL) #SRs: 7-6
09:09 | dannyrafter (BRA) vs. (7) jpaulo1610 (BRA) #SRs: 7-7, Shootout: SR2
09:10 | (LL) JustafanYYC (CAN) vs. Zberg (NED) #SRs: 6-7
08:09 | VAMOS!! (AUS) vs. (5) juakos17 (CHI) #SRs: 5-7
 

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Doubles Draw

F
Match counted: 2
Match remaining: 1

02:02 | gak3/VamosRafaNadal (esp/ESP) vs. (2) Chris 84/Slokid (ECO/SLO) #SRs: 2-2

SF
Match counted: 4
Match remaining: 0

02:03 | (1) keqtqiadv/Tytta! (BRA/BRA) vs. gak3/VamosRafaNadal (esp/ESP) #SRs: 0-1
04:05 | Felipe Abe/Rafael Reis (BRA/BRA) vs. (2) Chris 84/Slokid (ECO/SLO) #SRs: 0-2

QF
Match counted: 8
Match remaining: 0

12:10 | (1) keqtqiadv/Tytta! (BRA/BRA) vs. (Q) JMG/mcarvalho (MON/POR) #SRs: 4-5
13:12 | *gak3/VamosRafaNadal (esp/ESP) vs. (Q) Mark Lenders/vn01 (CAN/BUL) #SRs: 4-2
09:11 | (3) jmjhb/Goldenoldie (USA/GBR) vs. Felipe Abe/Rafael Reis (BRA/BRA) #SRs: 5-6
12:12 | Euroquitter/Deathless Mortal (GER/CRO) vs. (2) Chris 84/Slokid (ECO/SLO) #SRs: 3-6


First Round
Match counted: 10
Match remaining: 0

10:10 | (1) keqtqiadv/Tytta! (BRA/BRA) vs. balloon/Marita (SIN/ARG) #SRs: 6-4
10:09 | JMG/mcarvalho (MON/POR) vs. (Q) Zberg/Eland (NED/NED) #SRs: 5-4
10:10 | *gak3/VamosRafaNadal (esp/ESP) vs. jahrastaman_BR/jackjones (BRA/BRA) #SRs: 5-6
10:10 | (Q) Mark Lenders/vn01 (CAN/BUL) vs. (4) *mateusz2904/acionescu (POL/ROU) #SRs: 5-4

10:09 | (3) jmjhb/Goldenoldie (USA/GBR) vs. appleGirL/mahqz (BRA/BRA) #SRs: 4-5
10:10 | (LL) jpaulo1610/cserkinho (BRA/AUT) vs. Felipe Abe/Rafael Reis (BRA/BRA) #SRs: 4-5
10:10 | (Q) sergiodmm/juakos17 (BRA/CHI) vs. Euroquitter/Deathless Mortal (GER/CRO) #SRs: 5-5
10:10 | savesthedizzle/Cava (USA/CZE) vs. (2) Chris 84/Slokid (ECO/SLO) #SRs: 6-4

Qualification Final Round
Match counted: 6
Match remaining: 0


07:08 | (1) bry17may/catgamer (GUA/GER) vs. Mark Lenders/vn01 (CAM/BUL) #SRs: 4-6
08:08 | (3) jpaulo1610/cserkinho (BRA/AUT) vs. (2) sergiodmm/juakos17 (BRA/CHI) #SRs: 7-7 - Shoot Out SR3 (set to Pouille)


LL:
1. jpaulo1610/cserkinho (BRA/AUT)
2. bry17may/catgamer (GUA/GER)



Qualification First Round
Match counted: 15
Match remaining: 0


00:00 | (1) bry17may/catgamer (GUA/GER) vs. BYE/BYE #SRs: 0-0
20:09 | Mark Lenders/vn01 (CAM/BUL) vs. (4) dannyrafter/ricardo soler (BRA/BRA) #SRs: 14-7
19:17 | (3) jpaulo1610/cserkinho (BRA/AUT) vs. bavaria/VAMOS! (GER/AUS) #SRs: 16-12
00:09 | BYE/BYE vs. (2) sergiodmm/juakos17 (BRA/CHI) #SRs: 0-7
 

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Schedule of Play

Code:
[B][U]TT SCHEDULE*[/U][/B]
*Can be modified

[B]SINGLES:[/B]
Saturday ~ TT QR1 & TT QR2
Sunday ~ TT QFR
Monday ~ TT R32
Tuesday ~ (TT R32) + TT R16
Wednesday ~ TT QF
Thursday ~ TT SF
Friday & Saturday ~ TT Final

[B]DOUBLES:[/B]
Saturday ~ TT QR1 & TT QR2
Sunday ~ TT QFR
Monday & Tuesday ~ TT R16
Wednesday ~ TT QF
Thursday ~ TT SF
Friday  & Saturday ~ TT Final
 

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Entry list - Main draw
Code:
1  sergiodmm        1
2  keqtqiadv        5
3  joe87            6
4  Equalizer        9
5  Tytta!.          10
6  VamosRafaNadal   13
7  acionescu        14	
8  Marita           16
9  jahrastaman_BR   17
10 Euroquitter      19
11  Chris 84         20
12 Cazorla          24
13 mateusz2904      28
14 César Luiz       29
15 savesthedizzle   33
16 mcarvalho        34
17 cserkinho        35
18 Dudisela75     37
19 bry17may         38
20 catgamer         39
21 guille&tati4life 41
22 Cava             42
23 Kissing_Rain     44
24 gak3             47
25 Holmzy           53
26 Rafael Reis      60
27 Ricardo Soler    61
28 Mahqz            65
Q
Q
Q
Q
Qualification list
Code:
1  Felipe Abe       66
2  Eland            67
3  KittyTennis      70
4  juakos17         72
5  Mesut Ozil       78
6  jpaulo1610       81 
7  bavaria100       84
8 jmjhb            101
9 balloon          116
10 appleGirl        126
11 Deathless Mortal 135
12  Sander.         141
13  Zberg           170
14  dannyrafter     231
15 VAMOS!!          247  
16 Peta Pan          56LE
ALT1 JMG             132LE
ALT2Goldenoldie      134LE
ALT3justafanYYC      192LE
ALT 6 pool
 

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Doubles - main draw
Code:
1 keqtqiadv/Tytta!            1 +  1 = 2
2 Chris 84/Slokid            12 + 12 = 24
3 jmjhb/Goldenoldie          19 + 20 = 39
4 mateusz2904/acionescu      10 + 33 = 43
5 Zberg/Eland                18 + 27 = 45
6 Euroquitter/Deathless Mortal 25+40 = 65
7 balloon/Marita             35 + 38 = 73
8 jahrastaman_BR/jackjones   42 + 43 = 85
9 joe87/justafanYYC          44 + 45 = 89
10 appleGirl/mahqz            48 + 49 = 97
11 JMG/mcarvalho                 39 + 83 = 121
12 Felipe Abe/Rafael Reis     58 + 65 = 123
13 savesthedizzle/Cava        51 + 73 = 124
14 gak3/VamosRafaNadal        64 + 108= 172
Q
Q

Doubles - qualification draw
Code:
1 catgamer/bry17may	      92 + 101= 193
2 sergiodmm/juakos17         41 + 159= 200
3 jpaulo1610cserkinho          103 + 145= 248
4 dannyrafter/Ricardo Soler 159 + 159= 318
5 Mark Lenders/vn01         205 + 205= 410
6 bavaria100/Vamos!           127 + 226= 453
 

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OOP for Saturday

QR1 Singles/Doubles :
Pierre-Hugues HERBERT (FRA) vs Jonathan GOMONT (FRA) PTS1
Gonzalo LAMA (CHI) vs Victor CRIVOI (ROU) PTS2
Yann MARTI (SUI) vs Dennis NOVAK (AUT) PTS3
Robby GINEPRI (USA) vs Mate PAVIC (CRO) PTS4
Lucas POUILLE (FRA) vs Somdev DEVVARMAN (IND) PTS5
Leonardo MAYER (ARG) vs Florent SERRA (FRA) PTS6
Axel MICHON (FRA) vs Antonio VEIC (CRO) PTS7
Albert RAMOS (ESP) vs Sergei BUBKA (UKR) PTS8
Alexandre MASSA (FRA) vs Romain ARNEODO (MON) PTS9
James MCGEE (IRL) vs Benjamin BALLERET (MON) PTS10
Sam QUERREY (USA) vs Gianni MINA (FRA) PTS11
Elias YMER (SWE) vs Albano OLIVETTI (FRA) PTS12
Donald YOUNG (USA) vs Antonio VEIC (CRO) PTS13
Jack SOCK (USA) vs Salvatore CARUSO (ITA) PTS14
Martin VAISSE (FRA) vs Ante PAVIC (CRO) PTS15
Christian MOHS (GER) vs Simone VAGNOZZI (ITA) PTS16


Matches count for QFR Singles & Doubles (Day 1/2)
Deadline is 9.00AM local time
Please send your picks to supertom

Good luck!! :)
 

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Re: TT Nice | The tournament starts here

Will post the draw later. All players in qualification draw and ALT shoudl send
 

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Qualification First Round
Match counted: 0
Match remaining: 16


00:00 | (1) Peta Pan (AUS) vs. Zberg (NED)
00:00 | Deathless Mortal (CRO) vs. (8) bavaria100 (GER)
00:00 | (2) Felipe Abe (BRA) vs. appleGirl (ISR)
00:00 | balloon (SIN) vs. (6) Mesut Ozil (POR)

00:00 | (3) Eland (NED) vs. Sander. (NED)
00:00 | dannyrafter (BRA) vs. (7) jpaulo1610 (BRA)
00:00 | (4) KittyTennis (USA) vs. jmjhb (GBR)
00:00 | VAMOS!! (AUS) vs. (5) juakos17 (CHI)
 

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Doubles Draw

Qualification First Round
Match counted: 0
Match remaining: 16


000:00 | (1) bry17may/catgamer (GUA/GER) vs. BYE/BYE
00:00 | Mark Lenders/vn01 (CAM/BUL) vs. (4) dannyrafter/ricardo soler (BRA/BRA)
00:00 | (3) jpaulo1610/cserkinho (BRA/AUT) vs. bavaria/VAMOS! (GER/AUS)
00:00 | BYE/BYE vs. (2) sergiodmm/juakos17 (BRA/CHI)
 

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Saturday diffs - doubles:

00:00 | (1) bry17may/catgamer (GUA/GER) vs. Bye
02:01 | Mark Lenders/vn01 (CAM/BUL) vs. (4) dannyrafter/ricardo soler (BRA/BRA) - Missing picks from ricardo soler
02:03 | (3) jpaulo1610/cserkinho (BRA/AUT) vs. bavaria/VAMOS! (GER/AUS) - LAMA, PAVIC, BALLERET vs. CRIVOI, GINEPRI, MCGEE SR Differences: CRIVOI 2-0 v. CRIVOI 2-1, LAMA 2-0 v. CRIVOI 2-1, MARTI 2-1 +2 v. MARTI 2-0 +2, PAVIC 2-0 v. GINEPRI 2-0, MICHON 2-1 v. MICHON 2-0, ARNEODO 2-0 v. ARNEODO 2-1, BALLERET 2-1 v. MCGEE 2-1, OLIVETTI 2-0 v. OLIVETTI 2-1, PAVIC 2-0 v. PAVIC 2-1
00:01 | Bye vs. (2) sergiodmm/juakos17 (BRA/CHI)
 

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Saturday diffs - singles

00:00 | (1) Peta Pan (AUS) vs. Zberg (NED) - CRIVOI, VEIC vs. LAMA, MICHON SR Differences: CRIVOI 2-1 vs. LAMA 2-1, VEIC 2-0 vs. MICHON 2-0, PAVIC 2-0 v 2-1
00:00 | Deathless Mortal (CRO) vs. (8) bavaria100 (GER) - LAMA, DEVVARMAN vs. CRIVOI, POUILLE SR Differences: LAMA 2-0 vs. CRIVOI 2-1, DEVVARMAN 2-0 vs. POUILLE 2-1, MCGEE 2-0 v 2-1
00:00 | (2) Felipe Abe (BRA) vs. appleGirl (ISR) - Missing picks from Felipe Abe Missing picks from appleGirl
00:00 | balloon (SIN) vs. (6) Mesut Ozil (POR) - POUILLE, MASSA vs. DEVVARMAN, ARNEODO SR Differences: MARTI 2-0 v 2-1, POUILLE 2-0 vs. DEVVARMAN 2-0, MASSA 2-0 vs. ARNEODO 2-0

00:00 | (3) Eland (NED) vs. Sander. (NED) - Missing picks from Sander.
00:00 | dannyrafter (BRA) vs. (7) jpaulo1610 (BRA) - NOVAK, VAISSE vs. MARTI, PAVIC SR Differences: CRIVOI 2-1 v 2-0, NOVAK 2-1 vs. MARTI 2-1, GINEPRI 2-1 v 2-0, DEVVARMAN 2-0 v 2-1, VAISSE 2-1 vs. PAVIC 2-0
00:00 | (4) KittyTennis (USA) vs. jmjhb (GBR) - Missing picks from KittyTennis
00:00 | VAMOS!! (AUS) vs. (5) juakos17 (CHI) - CRIVOI vs. LAMA
 

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Re: TT Nice | The tournament starts here

4 missing picks - 3 LL sent (justafanYYC/6 Pool/ JMG).

So seeded 1 get a BYE
jmjhb is seeded 9 and replaces Felipe Abe, Zberg is taking his spot.
3 LL placed randomly

00:00 | (1) Peta Pan (AUS) vs. Bye
00:00 | Deathless Mortal (CRO) vs. (8) bavaria100 (GER) - LAMA, DEVVARMAN vs. CRIVOI, POUILLE SR Differences: LAMA 2-0 vs. CRIVOI 2-1, DEVVARMAN 2-0 vs. POUILLE 2-1, MCGEE 2-0 v 2-1
00:00 | (9) jmjhb (GBR) vs. (LL) JMG (GER) - CRIVOI, DEVVARMAN, BALLERET vs. LAMA, POUILLE, MCGEE
00:00 | balloon (SIN) vs. (6) Mesut Ozil (POR) - POUILLE, MASSA vs. DEVVARMAN, ARNEODO SR Differences: MARTI 2-0 v 2-1, POUILLE 2-0 vs. DEVVARMAN 2-0, MASSA 2-0 vs. ARNEODO 2-0

00:00 | (3) Eland (NED) vs. 6 Pool (LL) - CRIVOI, ARNEODO, BALLERET vs. LAMA, MASSA, MCGEE
00:00 | dannyrafter (BRA) vs. (7) jpaulo1610 (BRA) - NOVAK, VAISSE vs. MARTI, PAVIC SR Differences: CRIVOI 2-1 v 2-0, NOVAK 2-1 vs. MARTI 2-1, GINEPRI 2-1 v 2-0, DEVVARMAN 2-0 v 2-1, VAISSE 2-1 vs. PAVIC 2-0
00:00 | (LL) JustafanYYC (CAN) vs. Zberg (NED) - MCGEE vs. BALLERET
00:00 | VAMOS!! (AUS) vs. (5) juakos17 (CHI) - CRIVOI vs. LAMA
 

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Re: TT Nice | The tournament starts here

pick counts:

Singles:
Code:
HERBERT	15	GOMONT	0
LAMA	6	CRIVOI	9
MARTI	14	NOVAK	1
GINEPRI	15	PAVIC	14
POUILLE	3	DEVVARMAN	12
MAYER	15	SERRA	0
MICHON	14	VEIC	1
RAMOS	15	BUBKA	0
MASSA	2	ARNEODO	13
MCGEE	9	BALLERET	6
QUERREY	15	MINA	0
YMER	0	OLIVETTI	15
YOUNG	15	VEIC	1
SOCK	15	CARUSO	0
VAISSE	1	PAVIC	14
MOHS	0	VAGNOZZI	15
Doubles:
Code:
HERBERT	8	GOMONT	0
LAMA	3	CRIVOI	5
MARTI	7	NOVAK	1
GINEPRI	7	PAVIC	8
POUILLE	1	DEVVARMAN	7
MAYER	8	SERRA	0
MICHON	7	VEIC	1
RAMOS	8	BUBKA	0
MASSA	0	ARNEODO	8
MCGEE	4	BALLERET	4
QUERREY	8	MINA	0
YMER	0	OLIVETTI	8
YOUNG	8	VEIC	1
SOCK	8	CARUSO	0
VAISSE	1	PAVIC	8
MOHS	0	VAGNOZZI	8
 

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Oh damn, totally missed the new thread......
 

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