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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

No ... if you want to be top 10 you NEED to have a perfect coordination ... you can be 190+sm but you lose more and more of it with Height ... you can still be top 10 but it is 2/3 players from ten of them so obviously ......
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

Go back in the past and tell us something about height of some Goats -Laver, Rosewall, Connors, ... they only could have played midget tennis with Rochus brothers today LOL
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

No ... if you want to be top 10 you NEED to have a perfect coordination ... you can be 190+sm but you lose more and more of it with Height ... you can still be top 10 but it is 2/3 players from ten of them so obviously ......
Yes, I think same. If you want to be in the top of the game you neeed to be 185 cm. Sampras, Federer and Nadal, the best players from last 20 years are all 185.You can be 188 like Djokovic but than you need to be SO SO flexibile like he is. Or like Murray and have short legs like he has.
Guys who are high more than 185 should work ALOT execases like joga, every kind of streching etc to make theirs body to be more and more flexibile. They should do that from really early age, when they start with tennis (so probably with 5-6 years).
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

Ferrer, Tipsarevic and Almagro drags down the top10 average. Meanwhile Soderling got bumped down to 13 for not playing for half a season. Players like Isner, Del Potro, Soderling, Cilic, Monfils all are in #11-#20 atm getting the average up.

If Soderling and Del Potro replaced Tipsarevic and Almagro in the top10 then the difference wouldn't look that big.

So by the end of the season it's probably just 2-3 cm difference
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

Yes, I think same. If you want to be in the top of the game you neeed to be 185 cm. Sampras, Federer and Nadal, the best players from last 20 years are all 185.You can be 188 like Djokovic but than you need to be SO SO flexibile like he is. Or like Murray and have short legs like he has.
Guys who are high more than 185 should work ALOT execases like joga, every kind of streching etc to make theirs body to be more and more flexibile. They should do that from really early age, when they start with tennis (so probably with 5-6 years).
the problem is at age of 5-6 you hardly know you will get 185, 190 or higher...:D
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

the problem is at age of 5-6 you hardly know you will get 185, 190 or higher...:D
Never mind about high. You need flexibility, so you need that exercises.
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

Yes, I think same. If you want to be in the top of the game you neeed to be 185 cm. Sampras, Federer and Nadal, the best players from last 20 years are all 185.You can be 188 like Djokovic but than you need to be SO SO flexibile like he is. Or like Murray and have short legs like he has.
Guys who are high more than 185 should work ALOT execases like joga, every kind of streching etc to make theirs body to be more and more flexibile. They should do that from really early age, when they start with tennis (so probably with 5-6 years).
Djokovic is 187 cm. I'm sure if he wins another slam people will believe he is actually 190 cm.
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

yes i'm with petar_pan and with my opinion ...
Del potro compensates the lost coordination with powerful serve and extreme on the run shots with maximum power cross court ...
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

Ferrer, Tipsarevic and Almagro drags down the top10 average. Meanwhile Soderling got bumped down to 13 for not playing for half a season. Players like Isner, Del Potro, Soderling, Cilic, Monfils all are in #11-#20 atm getting the average up.

If Soderling and Del Potro replaced Tipsarevic and Almagro in the top10 then the difference wouldn't look that big.

So by the end of the season it's probably just 2-3 cm difference
All this. Interesting subject, it would be interesting to have a study over the last 5-10 years.
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

Ferrer, Tipsarevic and Almagro drags down the top10 average.
Also, Tipsarevic has a truly exceptional serve for his height. 28 aces yesterday.

Ferrer gets away with a weaker serve because he's such a superb returner.
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

Djokovic is 187 cm. I'm sure if he wins another slam people will believe he is actually 190 cm.
I think he was 187 cm by all source. But today by his official website, by ITF and ATP he is 188.


yes i'm with petar_pan and with my opinion ...
Del potro compensates the lost coordination with powerful serve and extreme on the run shots with maximum power cross court ...
Btw, Del Potro got 5 kilos more in off-season. His fotwork is way worse than it was. It's awfull, pathetic now. I don't why he got so much weight. He has 87 kilos right now. Same is with Cilic, he had 82, he has 87 now. That isn't any good, to make 5 kilos in off-season. And Cilic had problemes with his knees. But his movement is way, way better, so it should be all fine with him.


All this. Interesting subject, it would be interesting to have a study over the last 5-10 years.
I will take it from last 10 year's end season rankings.
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

Djokovic is 189cm
Federer is 188cm
Nadal is 186cm
Murray is 191cm
Del Potro is 200cm
Berdych is 196cm
Ferrer is 174cm
Tsonga is 188cm
Fish is 188cm
Tipsarevic is 179cm
Almagro is 182cm
Soderling is 193cm
Monfils is 193cm
Isner/Karlovic both 208cm
Anderson is 203cm/ same as De Schepper - second tallest guys on the tour.
Tomic 195cm
Roddick is 188cm
Never trust the ATP stats, some of them are awfully wrong, and some are very very old, thus wrong. Some players still grow til' they're about 20. In other cases (Berdych) although he got measured when he was still a teenager, his height is still somewhat accurate (from 195 to 196).

There are a few late bloomers, for example Simon, who is noted as 183 while he is 185cm.
One of the more accurate measurements for the taller guys is Cilic (198cm) and Karlovic (208cm).

This is the actual height of the players.

Oh and btw Sampras was 185cm.
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

Djokovic is 189cm
Federer is 188cm
Nadal is 186cm
Murray is 191cm
Del Potro is 200cm
Berdych is 196cm
Ferrer is 174cm
Tsonga is 188cm
Fish is 188cm
Tipsarevic is 179cm
Almagro is 182cm
Soderling is 193cm
Monfils is 193cm
Isner/Karlovic both 208cm
Anderson is 203cm/ same as De Schepper - second tallest guys on the tour.
Tomic 195cm
Roddick is 188cm
Never trust the ATP stats, some of them are awfully wrong, and some are very very old, thus wrong. Some players still grow til' they're about 20. In other cases (Berdych) although he got measured when he was still a teenager, his height is still somewhat accurate (from 195 to 196).

There are a few late bloomers, for example Simon, who is noted as 183 while he is 185cm.
One of the more accurate measurements for the taller guys is Cilic (198cm) and Karlovic (208cm).

This is the actual height of the players.

Oh and btw Sampras was 185cm.
Ok, thank you. I know they make mistakes but sorry, I will go with ATP. I dont' see any reliable source, so...
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

Djokovic is 189cm
Federer is 188cm
Nadal is 186cm
Murray is 191cm
Del Potro is 200cm
Berdych is 196cm
Ferrer is 174cm
Tsonga is 188cm
Fish is 188cm
Tipsarevic is 179cm
Almagro is 182cm
Soderling is 193cm
Monfils is 193cm
Isner/Karlovic both 208cm
Anderson is 203cm/ same as De Schepper - second tallest guys on the tour.
Tomic 195cm
Roddick is 188cm
Never trust the ATP stats, some of them are awfully wrong, and some are very very old, thus wrong. Some players still grow til' they're about 20. In other cases (Berdych) although he got measured when he was still a teenager, his height is still somewhat accurate (from 195 to 196).

There are a few late bloomers, for example Simon, who is noted as 183 while he is 185cm.
One of the more accurate measurements for the taller guys is Cilic (198cm) and Karlovic (208cm).

This is the actual height of the players.

Oh and btw Sampras was 185cm.
so what is the source for those height numbers?
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

It's an interesting stat, but one snapshot isn't enough to be really meaningful. What would be interesting is to note average heights over a rolling 1-2 year span for the top 10 and 11-20 and see if anything interesting comes up then.
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

nadal is taller than fed
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

Average of high for for top 10 players of year-end rankings for following years:

2002: 185.4
2003: 183.2
2004: 183.1
2005: 181.9
2006: 185.3
2007: 182.7
2008: 186.8
2009: 188.1
2010: 187.1
2011: 185.8


I will put other stuff later.
 

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Re: Top 10 average of high 185.8 cm, players from #11 till #20 191.5!!!

Average of high for for top 10 players of year-end rankings for following years:

2002: 185.4
2003: 183.2
2004: 183.1
2005: 181.9
2006: 185.3
2007: 182.7
2008: 186.8
2009: 188.1
2010: 187.1
2011: 185.8


I will put other stuff after.
Thank you, great stats. Seems like there's no clear evidence of "players getting taller" while I'm sure average height in 1982 was well below today's.
 
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