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Until someone comes up with an equation, a formula that would clearly and objectively define who the GOAT is, it's impossible to determine who is the greatest player of all time and the fact that there are so many divided opinions from former players, fans, journalists etc. PROVES that it's all preference at this point.
 

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Word. It's all subjective opinion cloaked by cherrypicked facts to "prove" a point. Some do it openly, some in a more subtle way, but it all boils down to that, a personal opinion that ain't worth a jack shit.
 

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Correct. There are too many variables. It's like trying to determine all the causes of me writing this comment. The entire history of the universe caused it.
 
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Even if Federer had 20 Slams and Nadovic had one Slam each, you would still get tards pretending there's a GOAT 'debate'. Just because tards invent a 'debate' out of nothing, doesn't mean there is a 'debate'. Fed is GOAT, Nadal has too much clay skew, and DQovid is way behind. So no 'debate'.
 

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Even if Federer had 20 Slams and Nadovic had one Slam each, you would still get tards pretending there's a GOAT 'debate'. Just because tards invent a 'debate' out of nothing, doesn't mean there is a 'debate'. Fed is GOAT, Nadal has too much clay skew, and DQovid is way behind. So no 'debate'.
Peak blind tardism.
 

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At best you can argue who is the most successful of all time, but unless a player comes, dominates the field for a decade at least, reach 500 weeks at no.1, win 30+ slams and many other achievements there is no clear answer. Also, how can you even compare players from before the OE when everything was different. Its all so subjective, its down to everyone's preferences and beliefs.
 

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No one is objectively GOAT in anything non measurably.

Doesn‘t mean there isn‘t one. Even if we don‘t have the surefire tools or intelligence to know who.
 

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At best you can argue who is the most successful of all time [...]
Correct. If you fancy the GOAT debate, there's more to argue for; you can discuss all kinds of things like impact to the sport etc. Think of boxing e.g.:


1) Muhammad Ali

Highly-acclaimed heavyweight legend Muhammad Ali, known fondly by many as “The Greatest”, had already made his mark on the sport before he even became a professional, winning a gold medal at the 1960 Summer Olympics in Rome, Italy. But as a pro, Ali would become a true cultural icon, refusing to be drafted into the US Military during the Vietnam War.

Known for his fighting style, in which he famously likened to ‘moving like a butterfly but stinging like a bee’, Ali had a distinct talent for poetry and prose both in and out of the ring. His pugilistic artistry trumped only by his sharp tongue and lyrical genius, led to his immense popularity even to this day.
2) Jack Johnson

He was the first black heavyweight boxing world champion in history, and one of the most dominant fighters of all time. Jack Johnson was famous for beating then-undefeated white boxer James Jeffries in 1910, who famously said he was going into the fight with Johnson for the singular purpose of “proving that a white man is better than a *****”. [...]
3) Oscar De La Hoya

The original Pay-Per-View king, Oscar De La Hoya was a true beacon of light for Mexican boxing, and for the sport in general. Behind his boyish good looks, movie star smile, and multi-million dollar charisma, “The Golden Boy” used his influence to truly change the game in terms of how big boxing matches can become. [...]

Most successful is easier / more straightforward. All hail the MSOAT.
 

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So, the only period Goat actually existed was 2000-2018, and no amount of slams and big titles Rafole ends up with can change that, no.

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In fact, since Ex-goatpras won 64 titles like B.Borgoat, if one of Rafole reaches 64 big titles x2 i.e. about 128 big titles, then he can be a co-goat with Sampderer.
 

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Mtf tards like to think theres this semi official standard where a player has to check all the marks or have all the shots in the book to be in the running for goat but none of these or any other bullshit parameters matter.

There is no need for an equation. We have trophies and tournaments for a reason: to determine who is the best. Naturally the player who wins the most (majors) should be the goat. The problem with goat debates is that often times the best players are too close to each other with regards to slam count, and to be able to definitively say one player is the goat, ie head and shoulders above the rest there needs to be a 5+ difference in slam wins.


In other words, Delpo is goat. Big3 is a distant second.
 

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The way Djokovic’s vassals worship their „king” is worrisome. Do they think it’s still 19th century?
 

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GOAT title only works when it's undisputed , when it's quite clear . It used to be Fed hands down . As it is today , there is none . Probably never will . But that could change .

EDIT: A good case for Djokovic will be , being able to win slams past 37y.o. (a couple like Fed). Let's say he does this to get to 23 . That would be it .
 

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Mtf tards like to think theres this semi official standard where a player has to check all the marks or have all the shots in the book to be in the running for goat but none of these or any other bullshit parameters matter.

There is no need for an equation. We have trophies and tournaments for a reason: to determine who is the best. Naturally the player who wins the most (majors) should be the goat. The problem with goat debates is that often times the best players are too close to each other with regards to slam count, and to be able to definitively say one player is the goat, ie head and shoulders above the rest there needs to be a 5+ difference in slam wins.


In other words, Delpo is goat. Big3 is a distant second.
Man , I couldn't agree more with everything ossie said here plus Big 3 are too equal , same as Wawrinka with Murray . Cilic is the CROAT. Hence Delpo is the GOAT .
 
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I completely agree, the whole GOAT debate doesn't make much sense, at least not when discussing Fedalovic. If there was someone leading the field with 10 slams more than everyone else, he would clearly be "the GOAT" But if the difference is only 10-20%, this is mostly random and every fanbase can bring up their arguments why their hero should be goat.
 

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Just by definition there is and will be a player that is greatest of all time. but tennis is very complex sport, different surfaces, luck of the draws, different conditions, different eras... Its really hard to compare them objectively. The only way to get to general consensus on this matter is if someone of our current 3 goats makes a big leap and greatly surpasses others in the next 3 or so years. Nole and Nadal can still achieve that, Fed not so much anymore obviously. If however that doesnt happen, people will be as conflicted in the future as they are now.

As of right now, in my subjective opinion Nadal is a goat by small margin, and then Novak is 2nd with Fed closely 3rd. But once again, thats subjective, i may value certain aspects of the game more than the others (like h2h, consistency, ability to adapt and so on). I think people trying to push their goat too much, if it will happen, it will happen naturally with general consensus, if not, then we will all have our own favorite and this generation will be defined by "big 3". We just have to wait few more years and we will know. Theres really no point to cherry pick stats trying to convince others (like 20>19>17, or h2h against main rivals, or h2h in gs...).
 
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