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These players were all top 5 in about 2002. Now they're all ranked about 20. Time after time we hear about how "they're not as good as they used to be" and "when will he find his lost skills"..."JCF's forehand has less power than it used to"..."When will Marat find his brain"..."Hewitt isn't as good as he used to be"...

This is BULL. The reality is that these players simply suck. They are no worse than they ever were - it's just that far superior players arrived and took the top spots away from them. Is it a coincidence that these top players from about 2002 have all mysteriously "declined" at the same time? Or is it just that the field was a lot weaker in 2002? You might point to Safin's one-off win against Federer in 2005. Big deal. He was still something like 2-7 against Federer at that point and is even worse now.

None of the above three players has got any worse, but none of them will win a Slam again. If I had to pick one of the three who was the least "clownish" it would be Hewitt, but even he is no match for Nadal or Federer. Safin certainly isn't and that will be proved when, despite the fact that it is a good matchup for Marat, Nadal crushes him.
 

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They've all also had injuries
 

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These players were all top 5 in about 2002. Now they're all ranked about 20. Time after time we hear about how "they're not as good as they used to be" and "when will he find his lost skills"..."JCF's forehand has less power than it used to"..."When will Marat find his brain"..."Hewitt isn't as good as he used to be"...

This is BULL. The reality is that these players simply suck. They are no worse than they ever were - it's just that far superior players arrived and took the top spots away from them. Is it a coincidence that these top players from about 2002 have all mysteriously "declined" at the same time? Or is it just that the field was a lot weaker in 2002? You might point to Safin's one-off win against Federer in 2005. Big deal. He was still something like 2-7 against Federer at that point and is even worse now.

None of the above three players has got any worse, but none of them will win a Slam again. If I had to pick one of the three who was the least "clownish" it would be Hewitt, but even he is no match for Nadal or Federer. Safin certainly isn't and that will be proved when, despite the fact that it is a good matchup for Marat, Nadal crushes him.
These players HAVE got worse and you are saying guys like robredo, berdych, blake, davydenko, gonzalez etc are all better than ferrero, hewitt and safin ever were? hahahahahaha
 

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All three are clearly not as good as they once were. Hewitt is the closest to getting back to his best.
 

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These players were all top 5 in about 2002. Now they're all ranked about 20. Time after time we hear about how "they're not as good as they used to be" and "when will he find his lost skills"..."JCF's forehand has less power than it used to"..."When will Marat find his brain"..."Hewitt isn't as good as he used to be"...

This is BULL. The reality is that these players simply suck. They are no worse than they ever were - it's just that far superior players arrived and took the top spots away from them. Is it a coincidence that these top players from about 2002 have all mysteriously "declined" at the same time? Or is it just that the field was a lot weaker in 2002? You might point to Safin's one-off win against Federer in 2005. Big deal. He was still something like 2-7 against Federer at that point and is even worse now.

None of the above three players has got any worse, but none of them will win a Slam again. If I had to pick one of the three who was the least "clownish" it would be Hewitt, but even he is no match for Nadal or Federer. Safin certainly isn't and that will be proved when, despite the fact that it is a good matchup for Marat, Nadal crushes him.
You could have got your facts straight, to begin with.

But most probably you are an idiot that's it...
 

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PMSL ...good one

tbh I agree 2002 the competetion is nowhere wat it is now.
 

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These players HAVE got worse and you are saying guys like robredo, berdych, blake, davydenko, gonzalez etc are all better than ferrero, hewitt and safin ever were? hahahahahaha
Hewitt will rise above some of those players in the rankings. But the rankings don't lie. The players you mention are all ranked higher, which means they are playing better and winning more matches. Except Boredo, I have no idea where he gets his points from although I suspect it is by playing a lot of D-list clay tournaments.

What a funny coincidence that three players who won so much in the Sampras-Federer transition period ie 2002-ish all "declined" as soon as some good players came along. NOT.
 

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Maybe he or she is wrong, but it's an interesting point to discuss
Discuss what? That since 2002 all of them have been declining but somehow Ferrero won RG, reached USO final in 2003; Hewitt reached finals at USO-2004 and AO-2005 and was ranked Top-3; Safin reached final at AO-2004, won two indoor Masters in 2004 and AO-2005?
Discuss what? That all of them suffered injuries that have weakened their game? That during their "declining period" these three had achieved more than all other active players on Tour not named Federer, Nadal, and Roddick?
 

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Discuss what? That since 2002 all of them have been declining but somehow Ferrero won RG, reached USO final in 2003; Hewitt reached finals at USO-2004 and AO-2005 and was ranked Top-3; Safin reached final at AO-2004, won two indoor Masters in 2004 and AO-2005?
Discuss what? That all of them suffered injuries that have weakened their game? That during their "declining period" these three had achieved more than all other active players on Tour not named Federer, Nadal, and Roddick?
Blah blah blah. 2002 was just a ballpark figure. These guys are all at peak age. If they are good enough they will be able to win tournaments. But they are not good enough and that is why they are getting their asses kicked. End of. I hold out some hope for Hewitt, who isn't quite as bad as the other two. Ferrero I'm afraid, simply sucks the big one. A small, weak, overrated clown who somehow fluked a set against Federer at Wimbledon but probably won't win another set against either Federer or Nadal for the rest of his career.
 

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This is BULL. The reality is that these players simply suck. They are no worse than they ever were - it's just that far superior players arrived and took the top spots away from them.
None of the above three players has got any worse...
:retard: :rolls: :retard:
 

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mmm you are exagerating a little, and those three players do not suck, they are very good but i agree now there are better players, for example Ferrero is playing the best he can,if not get more good results is because he can not , he has had a great year anyway

and its bullshit his forehand was more powerful before, dunno why many have that wrong belief.
 

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Blah blah blah. 2002 was just a ballpark figure. These guys are all at peak age. If they are good enough they will be able to win tournaments. But they are not good enough and that is why they are getting their asses kicked. End of. I hold out some hope for Hewitt, who isn't quite as bad as the other two. Ferrero I'm afraid, simply sucks the big one. A small, weak, overrated clown who somehow fluked a set against Federer at Wimbledon but probably won't win another set against either Federer or Nadal for the rest of his career.
you blow....is there someone claiming these 3 are better than Fed?

Obviously anytime Fed loses a set, game or point it is a fluke...and is in no way related to the opponent raising their game.
 

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The players don't suck, but injuries happen, new players come along, the game changes, it gets harder to win every year and your ranking drops. Look at Haase beating Berdman the other day. Berd's incredible talent lost to a guy who in all probability will never be a real force on the tour and it happens every week. There are so many players out there that will beat you if you are slightly injured or off of your game or not 100%. This happens to every player on tour other than Federer and Nadal (for the most part).
 

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Why do players have to SUCK if they're not in the top 10/5/3?

Neither of them were ever considered GOAT candidates in anyone's mind, but the three of them have played INCREDIBLY well (in fact, well enough to get to #1 which is INCREDIBLY impressive). When these players were at the top, they were healthy, but all have had injuries and that certainly has played a part in their slide out of the top echelon of the sport, but they're still playing well, and definitely have shown positive signs that point to a return to the top.

Hewitt almost broke Nadal's clay streak this year, and JCF and Marat lost god matches to Fed @ Wimbly. That's not too bad for players that SUCK:eek: :retard:

Get over yourself. I bet anyone in the top 200 could beat almost ANYONE on this board, so how does a player in the top 30 suck? It defies logic :shrug:
 

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Making multiple comebacks after long injury layoffs are not easy, you scrub. These players aren't as good as they were, but they definitely don't "just suck" as soon as "better players come along." Man, you're retarded...although that's an insult to retards.
 

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Why do players have to SUCK if they're not in the top 10/5/3?

Neither of them were ever considered GOAT candidates in anyone's mind, but the three of them have played INCREDIBLY well (in fact, well enough to get to #1 which is INCREDIBLY impressive). When these players were at the top, they were healthy, but all have had injuries and that certainly has played a part in their slide out of the top echelon of the sport, but they're still playing well, and definitely have shown positive signs that point to a return to the top.

Hewitt almost broke Nadal's clay streak this year, and JCF and Marat lost god matches to Fed @ Wimbly. That's not too bad for players that SUCK:eek: :retard:

Get over yourself. I bet anyone in the top 200 could beat almost ANYONE on this board, so how does a player in the top 30 suck? It defies logic :shrug:
anybody in the top 1000 could beat anybody on this board, simple as that.
 
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