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This year he again failed to win the French Open in order to complete a career grandslam.

And next year, he has a lot of pressure to win the Olympics which he will be playing during his peak years.

If he fails to do both, how can he be considered a GOAT contender? Will he handle the pressure?
 

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We're still in 2015.
 
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What a pointless thread.
Why? Everyone is proclaiming that Djokovic is superior to Nadal and Federer, that he's already the best and that he will win tons of slams in the next few years.

These are definitely his 2 biggest targets, if he's truly the GOAT, shouldn't he achieve them?
 

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Nobody really cares about gold olympics when talking GOAT. Unless you think Nicolas Massu is greater than Federer.
 

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Nobody really cares about gold olympics when talking GOAT. Unless you think Nicolas Massu is greater than Federer.
LOL. So I can say that nobody cares about Wimbledon, unless you think Krijacek is greater than Lendl.
 

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The Olympics come every 4 years, dumbass. It's not a yearly event.
That's why it's bigger and more special. Federer talks about playing the 2016 Rio since how many years? And when he reached the Olympics final in 2012, he said that it felt as if he WON a slam. And he had only won the SEMI of the Olympics! The Olympics is the ultimate and most special event for any athlete. Stop making excuses for Djokovic in advance.
 

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Winning the Olympics may be a special thing for a player from a personal standpoint but you won't find anyone using it in GOAT debates. It comes every 4 years.
So? Everyone talks about Graf's Golden slams even back in 1988. It may not be important when we are talking about Laver, but when we talk about Nadal, Federer and Djokovic, this is a very big deal. The Olympics have been a huge event in tennis for many years now. When people refer to Agassi and Nadal, they don't say that they have a Career Golden Slam for nothing. Djokovic and Federer had opportunities in their peaks, it's their problem that they couldn't perform at the right moment to capture the ultimate prize.
 

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This year he again failed to win the French Open in order to complete a career grandslam.

And next year, he has a lot of pressure to win the Olympics which he will be playing during his peak years.

If he fails to do both, how can he be considered a GOAT contender? Will he handle the pressure?
Djokovic's peak years aren't relevant, because we just saw an aging Rafa beat Djokovic in 4 straight slam meetings during Djokovic's peak years (and the most lopsided was on hardcourt!).
And we saw an aging Federer almost beat Djokovic at last year's Wimbledon.
Plus he lost to young Nisikori at last year's US Open and Wawrinka at this year's French Open.
So the world already knows that Djokovic's peak is not worth anything.
Nobody would be surprised if Djokovic goes slamless next year (almost happened in 2014).
 

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Why? Everyone is proclaiming that Djokovic is superior to Nadal and Federer, that he's already the best and that he will win tons of slams in the next few years.

These are definitely his 2 biggest targets, if he's truly the GOAT, shouldn't he achieve them?
As a devout NoleFam member, of course I am very interested in Novak accomplishing these feats.
The Career Grand Slam not just for the sake of it, only because Djoker wants a French title so much, an almost Lendl-like obsession with Wimbledon.
First and foremost though, a 2nd USO is the most important target.
Then we can start to talk about 2016, starting with a 6th AO before even discussing anything clay.
Then Wimbledon, then the Olympics.
 

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Djokovic's peak years aren't relevant, because we just saw an aging Rafa beat Djokovic in 4 straight slam meetings during Djokovic's peak years (and the most lopsided was on hardcourt!).
And we saw an aging Federer almost beat Djokovic at last year's Wimbledon.
Plus he lost to young Nisikori at last year's US Open and Wawrinka at this year's French Open.
So the world already knows that Djokovic's peak is not worth anything.
Nobody would be surprised if Djokovic goes slamless next year (almost happened in 2014).
This would be a complete surprise, and you know it.
 

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This would be a complete surprise, and you know it.
Lol. He/She was going on on how it would be impossible for Djokovic to beat Nadal at RG because he always raised his level there no matter how bad he was playing and when he was straight setted he suddenly was playing awful, old, declined, etc.
 

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Yes Djokovic will need to win RG at some point. He can't possibly be GOAT without it. But no worries, he will win it at least once. The Nadal bubble has burst at RG and I doubt we'll see Wawrinka-like performances too often from him or other players in such a big final anytime soon. The Olympics are far less important, but would of course be nice to win as well.
 

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This would be a complete surprise, and you know it.
But Prime Djokovic was a 5th set from being slamless in 2014....
So its not a surprise given that it almost happened in 2014.
Plus Djokovic doesn't have as many fans as the 2 other famous players, so there really isn't that much pressure on him.
 

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This year he again failed to win the French Open in order to complete a career grandslam.

And next year, he has a lot of pressure to win the Olympics which he will be playing during his peak years.

If he fails to do both, how can he be considered a GOAT contender? Will he handle the pressure?
Nice sig lol!

Does he need the Olympics? I don't think so. We put a lot of pressure on players now to do the career slam. But two tier one greats BORG and SAMPRAS don't have it. And before Federer Sampras was considered the GOAT. The only thing Novak has to worry about are 14 and 17. If he gets to 15 slams. He will be considered greater than Sampras and Nadal (If Nadal wins no more slams) we have three to four years to wait and see.
 

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As a devout NoleFam member, of course I am very interested in Novak accomplishing these feats.
The Career Grand Slam not just for the sake of it, only because Djoker wants a French title so much, an almost Lendl-like obsession with Wimbledon.
First and foremost though, a 2nd USO is the most important target.
Then we can start to talk about 2016, starting with a 6th AO before even discussing anything clay.
Then Wimbledon, then the Olympics.
I think Novak should worry more about winning another 3 to 4 slams on HARDCOURT. Coupled with his amazing tally of HARDCOURT masters. That would make him the HARDCOURT GOAT.
 

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Too bad for Djokovic, he's not as good as Rafa at the US Open, and even when Rafa didn't play the US Open in 2012 and 2014, Djokovic still couldn't win it :lol:
Djokovic has won ONE US Open and he needed to save a matchpoint vs Federer just to make the final of it.
 
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