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By the end of 2016 Murray was world no1, reigning Wimbledon champion and his era of dominance was just starting after so many years in the shadows of the big 3. Wawrinka just won US open by beating Djokovic in the finals and is never the same again after his knee injury in 2017. DelPo was on his way of full recovery with semifinal in RG, quarter in Wimbledon and final in US Open until he was injured again in 2018.

Those guys would have taking some slams from the Big 3 for sure between 2017 till now. What's your thoughts
 

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Agreed, Nadal was pretty much a non-factor by end of 2016 and would have suffered many defeats tat the hands of a healthy Murray, Wawa Nishi. No way he would recover his HC form.
 

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No doubt about it. Murray suddenly disappearing and Stan declining in 2017 weakened the tour pretty dramatically. Del Po's injuries have been helping the big 3 across the entire decade.
 
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If del potro had less injuries he probably would have won more slams. Wawrinkas injury stopped him from winning maybe a couple more and murray would unlikely have won any slams after 2017 but would have given the big 3 some resistance.

But injuries happen, its part of the sport, nadal was injuried a lit too and it did not stop him, novak snd roger had struggles too. Of course murrays injury is career ending but considaring his style of play this is not shocking. Del potro is injury prone and that what cost him while stan reached his peak very late in his career. If these 3 had not been injured in the psst 3 years they could have been the "small 3" or something. Still, they should be proud of what they achieved and they can still win more, especially wawrinka.
 

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definitely helped the big 3 especially with all 3 of them (delpo, murray, stan) having health issues not just 1 of them.
 

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Murray finally got injured in 2017, but had a very long career before that.

Wawrinka has been around forever and just ended up with a tough injury.

Del Potro oj the other hand has been injured on and off post 2009. Big 3 are lucky that he has only played 50% of his career. He showed with Wimbledon 2018 that he was right there and ready to get back into the mix, while US Open he made the final and Djokovic had to play 100% to keep it all intact.

Del Potro is the one the Big 3 can be thankful of.
 

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Murray finally got injured in 2017, but had a very long career before that.

Wawrinka has been around forever and just ended up with a tough injury.

Del Potro oj the other hand has been injured on and off post 2009. Big 3 are lucky that he has only played 50% of his career. He showed with Wimbledon 2018 that he was right there and ready to get back into the mix, while US Open he made the final and Djokovic had to play 100% to keep it all intact.

Del Potro is the one the Big 3 can be thankful of.
 

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Murray finally got injured in 2017, but had a very long career before that.

Wawrinka has been around forever and just ended up with a tough injury.

Del Potro oj the other hand has been injured on and off post 2009. Big 3 are lucky that he has only played 50% of his career. He showed with Wimbledon 2018 that he was right there and ready to get back into the mix, while US Open he made the final and Djokovic had to play 100% to keep it all intact.

Del Potro is the one the Big 3 can be thankful of.
Del Potro. A truly unfulfilled career. A man with talent to get 5 or 6 majors.
 

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don't forget Cilic also, as he was not able to maintain his mental toughness of 2014.
 

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I disagree em part.

Del Potro always gave the big3 problems everywhere And he won a slam at a young age. Unlike Andy and Stan.
Andy only got to the top when Rafa and Nole were in bad form and alot of injuries.
Nole after winning RG really had a hard time getting his edge-
Stan once he got Magnus with him became a better player. But was lucky Rafa and Federer werent on top of their game.
When Stan met Rafa at RG he was destroyed.

So in all the big3 had easier path to slams when these guys were injured.
 

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Thank god someone has finally said it!
Most people are wanking furiously over the so called ‘big three’ completely ignoring the fact that the WORLD’S BEST PLAYER has been INJURED for the last 3 YEARS.

People forgot that Murray was world no.1 before he got injured and injury was the ONLY reason he stopped being no.1.
 

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don't forget Cilic also, as he was not able to maintain his mental toughness of 2014.
If Cilic played like 2014 US Open then he would be an all time great. That was it for him though. He showed he could play at that level, but it's nothing sustainable
 

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Juan Martin del Potro's derailing injuries make for a very sad, almost tragic tale. Affectionately known as DelPo, he had already exceeded Novak Djokovic by late 2009, and was arguably at the level of greats Federer and Nadal, but was cut down by a severe wrist injury and surgery in 2010. His limited comebacks after injuries in 2010 and thereafter have provided some happiness for his fans, and generated hope, albeit short-lived, only to see them dashed against the rocky path of what might have been again and again.

His lone major title might have been exceeded by his stalwart Olympic performances in 2012 and 2016. In the 2012 SF round, the 8th seeded Argentine extended the Swiss Maestro to the longest 3 set match in the history of Open tennis on the lawns of Wimbledon losing 19-17, (many said the true final. You're welcome Andy), but glorified Argentina by defeating Srbija's #1 in the Bronze medal round. In 2016 Rio's Olympics, as a mere shadow of his former self, an unseeded outsider (#141) returning from yet another injury, he cruelly crushed Srbija's dreams of a medal in the first round beating the World #1, bringing many to tears, both devestated and elated, and later earned the Silver medal, by beating the #3 seeded Spanish Bull in a hard fought SF match, and afterwards losing the Gold medal final to Great Britain's #1, and thereby unknowingly, except to our own pepita1984, propelling the talented Scot to the eventual Year End #1.

When healthy, he had perhaps the most feared forehand in history, and it is truly a shame that his body has prevented him from achieving even more greatness, while allowing others more success than they perhaps deserve, but ultimately, suffering comes with its own blessings and humility.




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Juan Martin del Potro's derailing injuries make for a very sad, almost tragic tale. Affectionately known as DelPo, he had already exceeded Novak Djokovic by late 2009, and was arguably at the level of greats Federer and Nadal, but was cut down by a severe wrist injury and surgery in 2010. His limited comebacks after injuries in 2010 and thereafter have provided some happiness for his fans, and generated hope, albeit short-lived, only to see them dashed against the rocky path of what might have been again and again.

His lone major title might have been exceeded by his stalwart Olympic performances in 2012 and 2016. In the 2012 SF round, the 8th seeded Argentine extended the Swiss Maestro to the longest 3 set match in the history of Open tennis on the lawns of Wimbledon losing 19-17, (many said the true final. You're welcome Andy), but glorified Argentina by defeating Srbija's #1 in the Bronze medal round. In 2016 Rio's Olympics, as a mere shadow of his former self, an unseeded outsider (#141) returning from yet another injury, he cruelly crushed Srbija's dreams of a medal in the first round beating the World #1, bringing many to tears, both devestated and elated, and later earned the Silver medal, by beating the #3 seeded Spanish Bull in a hard fought SF match, and afterwards losing the Gold medal final to Great Britain's #1, and thereby unknowingly, except to our own pepita1984, propelling the talented Scot to the eventual Year End #1.

When healthy, he had perhaps the most feared forehand in history, and it is truly a shame that his body has prevented him from achieving even more greatness, while allowing others more success than they perhaps deserve, but ultimately, suffering comes with its own blessings and humility.




Most respectfully,
masterclass
Wow what a post and comeback as always by masterclass I'd only add Delpo avenging that OG final later that year (Murray's best) in the Davis Cup semi final in GB coming back from 1-2 on the path to Argentina's long awaited glorious title. That victory and over Cilic also away in Croacia from 0-2 in the final were the KEY matches.

Truly Heroic Stuff
 

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Del Potro likely walking away from the game with only one Slam makes no sense. Cruel, repeated twists of fate for a lock World No. 1/multiple Slam winner to have so many injuries. :cry:
 
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