TT Changes 2010
TT Changes 2010
1) WTF doubles:
No change (individual race).
2) Top 30 & challengers in Davis Cup & Grand Slam 2nd weeks and when there are no ATP tournaments played:
Top 30 players (singles & doubles) are allowed to play these challengers as late entries (LE).
3) SR shootout:
Retirements count for the SR shootout (only correct winners, not the SR).
ex: Ljubo vs Blake SR1 -> result Ljubo def Blake 61 ret.
Match: Player A 12:12 Player B - SRs 5:5 (Player A picked Ljubo & Player B picked Blake)
Result: Player A wins on SR1 correct winner.
4) Doubles commitments:
Players are allowed to commit to doubles in week #1.
5) Changes - points breakdown:
- Masters (7 rounds) = 500, 350, 225, 125, 75, 40, 15, 0 (+20 for qualifier)
- 500 (6 rounds) = 300, 210, 135, 75, 40, 15, 0 (+15 for qualifier)
- 250 (6 rounds) = 200, 140, 90, 50, 25, 10, 0 (+10 for qualifier)
6) 250 & 500 tournaments:
7) Challengers & the WTF race:
Challengers count for the WTF race.
8) Top 30 DOUBLES players & Challengers:
Top 30 doubles players are not allowed to play challengers. The same rules apply to singles and doubles.
9) Davis Cup & ATP points:
No change (no points for Davis Cup).
10) Number of SR matches:
All matches as SRs.
11) Protected ranking (PR):
Players are allowed to ask for a PR after they're back from their absence.
Important: They must request a PR before they commit to any tournaments.
11) Wild cards (WC):
No change (no WCs).
12) Current rules which are being added to the thread:
- Picks must be sent to the correct manager.
- Monday’s SRs for doubles (two-day round) – when the manager doesn’t say anything about them, they should go to the bottom of the SR order (for shootout purposes).
- Players must withdraw from the tournament they've previously entered before being accepted in the entry list of another tournament (as a late entry).
TT Changes 2009 - The Board decision
1. Revised Ranking Points Breakdown
- 0 points for R1 losses (except in GS, which are mandatory)
- GS = 1000, 700, 450, 250, 150, 75, 35, 5 (+20 for qualifier)
- Masters = 500, 350, 225, 125, 75, 35, 0 (+20 for qualifier)
- 500 = 300, 210, 135, 75, 25, 0 (+15 for qualifier)
- 250 = 200, 140, 90, 50, 20, 0 (+10 for qualifier)
- Increase in challenger points:
Category 1 - ATP's $100,000 or higher: 120, 84, 54, 28, 12, 0 (+5 for qualifier)
Category 2 - ATP's $75,000+H or lower: 90, 63, 40, 21, 9, 0 (+3 for qualifier)
2. Number of SR matches
- All matches as SRs, though a maximum of 20 (mostly needed at Slams).
3. SR System
- No more SR winners rule (even in Slams). If a match is tied, it goes straight to correct SRs. If number of correct SRs is tied, it goes to the SR shootout. When both players pick the loser, the shootout win goes to the one who gave more sets to the winner.
4. PTS System
- the old system won the poll, no change
5. Doubles at the TMC
- the current system won the poll, no change
- Not being implemented.
7. Match deadlines
- Managers will set a deadline at which no more picks will be allowed, even if a point hasn't been played. The deadline will be taken from the official order of play and set at a time when the first match begins.
8. Late Picks
- No late picks allowed, even if there are no LLs available. Other player will be given a w/o. If both players don't send, then late picks > no picks. Also 0 points > no picks (in a 2-day round sending on one day is enough to avoid a walkover).
9. Protected Ranking (PR) and Special Exempts
- As per now. Adam will run the SE thread with others helping out if necessary.
10. Sending picks incorrectly
a) If someone sends before OOP is posted then no punishment.
b) First time = a warning (manager should PM the player back)
c) Second time = a point penalty
Tournament threads must have instructions on how to send picks correctly. It's up to the manager whether they wish to impose these penalties. It's just an option which might hopefully make players realise it's annoying when they send ridiculous PM's.
Protected Ranking (PR)
- PR will be introduced. Players must inform the board about their absence for the protected ranking to start running. A list of players with protected ranking will be kept in the managers thread. To get a PR, the players absence from TT must be continuos for atleast 3 months. The number of PR's will depend on the lenght of absence:
3 months out = 3 PR
4 months out = 4 PR
5 months out = 5 PR
6 or more months out = 6 PR
For the PR that a player is able to use for entries, we will use the average ranking of the first 6 weeks that the player was out. PR applies to both singles and doubles and we'll have a separate PR for both of them.
Special Exempts (SE)
- We will bring it to TT. A separate SE thread will be started in the TT forum to follow the possible SE's for every week (updated on Wednesday/Thursday). We are going to use the same basic rules as the ATP. The manager will leave 1 or 2 SE spots (depending on the tournament) in the main draw, if they won't be needed, then the first player(s) on the qualifying entry list will be promoted from the qualifying draw to the main draw. More from the ATP Rulebook (page 70):
Challenger ban from Top 30a) A Qualified Event for Special Exempt to an ATP Masters Series Tournament is the singles event of another ATP Masters Series or International Series Gold Tournament.
b) A Qualified Event for Special Exempt to an ATP International Series Gold Tournament is the singles event of another International Series Gold or ATP Masters Series Tournament.
c) A Qualified Event for Special Exempt to an ATP International Series Tournament is the singles event of any International Series or ATP Masters Series Tournament.
d) A Qualified Event for Special Exempt to a Challenger Series Tournament is the singles event of any ATP or Challenger Series Tournament.
Number of special exempts
ATP Masters Series and International Series Gold Tournaments shall have one (1) Special Exempt and International Series and Challenger Series Tournaments shall have two (2).
Players may receive a Special Exempt into the main draw of the following week's tournament if they meet the criteria and apply for it. If the main draw is to be made before a potential Special Exempt player plays on Friday, then such place(s) shall be drawn in the same manner as qualifier, i.e., four qualifiers ("Q") and one or two "SE" depending on whether there are one or two possibilities. Each of the five or six slots are marked "Q/SE." As soon as the "SE" match results are known, either the "SE" or the next Direct Acceptance (if the SE lost) is randomly drawn and inserted into the draw.
- We will keep the same rule as this year (Top 30).
Should the ban also include the Grand Slam 2nd weeks, Davis Cup weeks and the weeks after the Paris Masters Series tournament?
- We will keep the same rule as this year (no), but we are going to be more strict in determing when a player has to be knocked out from a GS (to play in a challenger the following week).
No-ranked players (NR's) before late entries (LE's) in the entry list
- Yes, NR's will become before LE's.
The entry system went through a major overhaul for the start of 2007 season, here's how it works:
32 player draw -> 28 direct entries, 4 qualy spots (max. 16 player qualy draw, 32 only in special occasions)
64 player draw -> 56 direct entries, 8 qualy spots (max. 32 player qualy draw)
128 player draw -> 112 direct entries, 16 qualy spots (64 player qualy draw, 128 in Grand Slams)
- Entries will be based on ranking (rankings from two weeks before the start of the tournament)
- Tournament thread posted on Friday (back-up day Saturday, then Sunday) two weeks before the start of the tourney (for example, the Doha tournament on week 1 would have it's thread posted on December 14th)
- Players have 10 days (from Friday till Sunday) to commit to the tournament for singles and this will be done by ranking (doubles commitments don't start yet). The first entry deadline is always Sunday 6 pm CET
- On Sunday evening after seeing the entry lists, players that aren't among the 28 direct entries, can move to another tournament which has free places or decide not to move and play the qualies there (only 1 change is allowed, still on ranking but late entries - LE's will go to the bottom of the entry list)
- Unranked players will be listed in the order of commitment
- Friday is the deadline (the exact time is up to the tournament manager) for changes and the draws are made after that for qualies and md
16 team draw -> 14 direct entries, 2 qualy spots (max. 8 team qualy draw, 16 only in special occasions)
32 team draw -> 28 direct entries, 4 qualy spots (max. 16 team qualy draw)
64 team draw -> 56 direct entries, 8 qualy spots (max. 32 team qualy draw)
- Entries will be based on ranking (rankings from two weeks before the start of the tournament)
- Doubles commitments start on Sunday 6 pm CET (the week before the tournament), players that are in the singles entry lists (main & qualy & alt) can now pair up
Example for Doha 2007:
Friday Dec 14 ~ tournament thread is posted, the commitments by ranking will start (no changes allowed)
Sunday Dec 24 ~ the entry list for the tournament is posted (entry deadline Sunday 6 pm CET)
Sunday Dec 24 6 pm CET ~ players can move to another tournament (1 change is allowed)
Sunday Dec 24 6 pm CET ~ doubles commitments start, players from the entry list pair up
Friday Dec 29 ~ the entry lists are finalized, the draws are done
Sat-Sun Dec 30-31 ~ quallies
Mon Jan 1 ~ main draw play will start
TT will follow the ATP here, with the exception of getting rid of the bye in all of the tournaments. This will mean that there will only be 3 kinds of singles draws next year (for 32, 64 and 128 players). Qualifying draws are normally for 16 players, but for the weeks like Sydney & Auckland (when there's no challengers) the quallies will be extended to 32 players.
Min. number of commitments for a tournament to be run
A TT tournament must have atleast 16 players committed for it to be run. If this number isn't reached before 2nd the deadline, the players signed-up can move to the other tournaments held the same week without being marked as late entries. Doubles tournament needs to have atleast 8 teams committed to be run.
Counting the retired matches?
The match will be counted if one point is played. Retired matches won't count in the new TB System.
Qualifying for the Tennis Masters Cup
Top 16 players in the doubles race rankings will qualify for the TMC. Top 8 players in the singles race rankings will qualify for the TMC. Ties will be broken by total points gathered in the Grand Slams that year.
Lucky Loser System
LL's just like in the ATP, except the order of lucky losers will be determined with the 'old' system (most correct picks, SR's, PTS...)
Top 30 players in the singles entry rankings can't play them, except during the Davis Cup and Grand Slam second weeks and when there are no ATP tournaments played.
The ranking system will remain the same (4 "mandatory" Grand Slams + 14 best others), but 0's for missing a Slam (which the player could have played with his ranking) will be added just like in the ATP. TMC points will be counted as an extra 19th tournament.
Partner sending both players doubles tips
Will not be accepted anymore, the picks must come from two different players.
The same picks for singles and doubles
Only one set of picks will be accepted, the same picks will be used for both singles and doubles.
Saving the daily schedule
When running a tournament, the manager should keep the old schedule (OOP + TB's) visible and not just edit the post with the next one. This is recommended in case there's a mistake or if somebody would like check for example what the order of TB matches were.
Playing TT with more than one account
In order to retain the integrity and the spirit of TT, this is not allowed. Players that appear to be suspicious of having accounts transmitting from the same IP, will have their IP’s checked by the supermods and could risk being suspended in TT. A 2-year ban is the standard lenght for the cheaters.
Standard schedules for tournaments
[B][U]TT Doubles Draw size 16[/U] Saturday ~ TT Q1 & (Q2) Sunday ~ TT Qualy Final Round Monday & Tuesday ~ TT R16 Wednesday & Thursday ~ TT QF Friday ~ TT SF Saturday & Sunday ~ TT Final [U]TT Draw size 32[/U] Saturday ~ TT Q1 & (Q2) Sunday ~ TT Qualy Final Round Monday ~ TT R32 Tuesday ~ TT R16 Wednesday & Thursday ~ TT QF Friday ~ TT SF Saturday & Sunday ~ TT Final [U]TT Doubles Draw size 32[/U] Saturday ~ TT Q1 & (Q2) Sunday ~ TT Qualy Final Round Monday & Tuesday ~ TT R32 Wednesday ~ TT R16 Thursday ~ TT QF Friday ~ TT SF Saturday & Sunday ~ TT Final [U]TT Draw size 64[/U] Saturday ~ TT Q1 Sunday ~ TT Qualy Final Round Monday ~ TT R64 Tuesday ~ TT R32 Wednesday ~ TT R16 Thursday ~ TT QF Friday ~ TT SF Saturday & Sunday ~ TT Final[/B]
These rules were created by the TT board, which consists of five people (Gavnich77, Troickitard, keqtqiadv, Labamba and adee-gee). If you have any questions, you can always contact us for more information.