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Tennis Tipping #14b Marrakech


Introduction to TT

What is Tennis Tipping?


Tennis Tipping is a game which tries to recreate the atmosphere of the ATP circuit. It consists of predicting the winners of the singles matches of a given day or round, but unlike the other tennis prediction games, the players are sorted in a knock-out system. That means each participant plays a different participant, and whoever gets the highest score moves on to the next round, when the winning players begin a new match (scores from the previous round are not carried on).
Here are some other similarities between TT and the ATP Tour:
· The game can be played individually (singles competition) or in pairs (doubles competition - the scores of each of the team players are combined);
· The categories of events are in compliance with the ITF/ATP regulations (Grand Slams, Masters 1000, ATP 500, ATP 250, Challengers/Futures, ATP Tour Finals, Davis Cup);
· Entries and seedings are based on a 52-week ranking system.

How do I sign up to a TT tournament?

You don’t have to have a certain number of posts or a period of registration in MTF. Just find the thread of the tournament you would like to play and post ‘IN’. The Tennis Tipping tournament threads are usually opened in the Forum of the actual ATP event. The exceptions are the Challengers and Futures, which are placed here. The calendar of events being held each year can be found in the Managers Thread. The deadline for regular entries in ATP events is always Sunday 6 PM CET (or CEST) a week before the start of the tournament. Players who commit after the deadline are considered ‘Late Entries’ and placed in the bottom of the entry list.

The deadline for entries in Challengers during the 2019 season is Friday 6 PM CET (or CEST) three days before the start of the tournament. Players who commit after the deadline are considered ‘Alternates’ and placed in the bottom of the entry list.

If you want to play doubles, you must find a partner to play with you. You can either ask for a doubles partner or contact someone who is also looking for a doubles partner in the tournament thread. We recommend the use of Private Messages (PM) to make sure your request has been read by the other player. After you settle the partnership, you just need to post ‘Doubles with (name of the player)’ in the tournament thread.

It’s important to know that you can only commit to one tournament in each week. You are allowed to change tournaments (only once), but you must withdraw from the tournament you have entered first. Keep in mind that if you change tournaments, you will be placed in the bottom of the entry list of the event you decide to play.

The qualifying tournament usually starts on the Saturday before the start of the event and the main draw on Monday, which is usually the first day of the tournament. But players must check the tournament schedule in the TT threads. During the 2019 season there will be no qualifying in Challengers and all of them will start Monday the earliest.


How do I send my predictions?

Players must pick the winners of the scheduled matches on each day of play. One day before the start of each day of play, the manager of the tournament will post the list of matches to be predicted, together with instructions on how to send the picks, the username to whom the picks should be addressed and the deadline after which no picks will be accepted.

The predictions must be sent by a PM. The message should be titled similarly to “TT (Name of the Tournament) – Day”. Picks can be sent anytime until the deadline set by the manager which usually is the beginning of play each day. The same picks will be used for singles & doubles.

Where can I find more information?

Tennis Tipping forum is the place where all the additional information about TT can be found.

PRECAUTIONARY MEASURE

If the board goes down as has happened before, send your picks to:
[email protected]
 

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Fact sheet

Dates:
April 6th - 12th, 2019
Type: ATP 250
Surface: Clay, Outdoor
Tournament Website: ATP Marrakech

First Singles Entry Deadline: Sunday, March 29, 6:00 PM CET (Europe clock change on the same day)
Deadline for Changes and Doubles Commitments: Friday, April 3, 12:00 noon CET
Draw Size for Singles: 32 (28 direct entries, 4 qualy spots, 16 player qualy draw)
Draw Size for Doubles: 16 (14 direct entries, 2 qualy spots, 8 team qualy draw)

TT RANKING POINTS
Code:
W...200
F....140
SF...90
QF...50
R16..20
R32..0
FQR..+10
QR1..5
Provisional TT Schedule

SINGLES
Sunday
QR1
Monday
FQR
Tuesday
R32
Wednesday
R16
Thursday
QF
Friday
SF
Saturday
Final (Day 1 of 2)
Sunday
Final (Day 2 of 2)

DOUBLES
Sunday
QR1
Monday
FQR
Tuesday
R16 (Day 1 of 2)
Wednesday
R16 (Day 2 of 2)
Thursday
QF
Friday
SF
Saturday
Final (Day 1 of 2)
Sunday
Final (Day 2 of 2)
 

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SCORING 101 FOR TENNIS TIPPING

How to Score a Match

1) correct picks

the player who has more correct picks is the winner
in the case of a tie in the number of correct picks the winner should be determined by this order:

2)
set ratios

player A wins if he has more correct set ratios than player B.
in case there is a tie in the number of correct SRs, you should use the Set to Winner (incorrect 21 picks) method.

3)
(incorrect 21 picks)

all incorrect picks will be compared, and the player with the most incorrect 2-1 picks will win.
---> if this fails to provide a winner, then the tie break method is used.


Next step

- matches in the order of play will be labeled PTS (Predict- The-Score) which will require players to predict the score for tie break purposes, such as 64 63 or 76 76 for example, these matches will be labeled PTS1 to (How ever many matches in A Round 1 of Q or MD, and only 1 PTS match every round after), with PTS1 being the first used to settle the tie, if it can't be settled thru PTS1, we would move down the order to PTS2 , PTS3 , etc. , in a RD1, in subsequent rounds we use PTS1 then Count Back if still Tied.

4) tie breaks (based on PTS1 match first)

-in case Player A chose the correct winner for the PTS1 match while Player B didn´t => Player A wins
-in case Player A and player B chose the correct winner for the PTS1 match and only one has the correct set ratio for that match, then the Player with the correct set ratio wins
-in case player A and player B chose the incorrect winner for the PTS1 match and only one has the incorrect set ratio 21 (versus 20) for that match, then the player with the incorrect 21 set ratio wins , this is displayed as sets to winner


---> In case Player A and Player B chose the correct winner or both chose loser for the PTS1 match and both have the correct/incorrect Set Ratio for that match, winner should be determined by this next methods in PTS1 Match (Predict-The-Score) :


5) tie breaks (POINTS - BASED ON YOUR SCORES PICKED)


a) correct order of sets (co)-> prediction of the correct winner of one or more sets.

o 1 set – 1 point
o 2 sets – 4 points
o 3 sets – 7 points
o 4 sets – 10 points
o 5 sets – 13 points

b) correct scorelines (cs) -> prediction of the exact score of a set won by a player:

o 1 set – 3 points
o 2 sets – 6 points
o 3 sets – 9 points
o 4 sets – 12 points
o 5 sets – 15 points
o bonus of 2 points for each score line predicted in the correct set.

c) total of PTS points (PTS):

o PTS = CO + CS

Sample
player A chose : 6-4 6-3
player B chose : 7-6 6-4
actual match score 63 62

player A CO (4) + CS (3) = total 7
player B CO (4) + CS (0) = total 4
Player A wins

---> If you can't find a winner after all this, in QR1 or RD1, you progressively go through the next PTS matches, and in rare cases where it can not be settled this way, it will progress to GD (game differences) , which can be found in rules section, manager will look up and apply, but rarely used.

--->In all other rounds then QR1/RD1 , PTS1 is followed by tournament count back, comparing all previous round scores, starting with WINNERS ONLY, then SR'S , and If still not settled back 1 round at a time. (This actually is used reasonably often in later rounds of events, with smaller OOP's in SF & F)

QUICK SUMMARY
--->If all is tied with same score overall of WINNERS / SR / INCORRECT 21 PICKS , Matches are then settled using first match in OOP, by comparing that match , first comparing the WINNER, then comparing the SET RATIO, then comparing if 1 player has an incorrect 21 and the other does not, if all remains tied after all this, points scoring comes into play using the actual 64 63 for example, and using the formulas to determine the winner. everything is exhausted in the First match, but if remains tied moves to 2nd, then 3rd then 4th, etc, IN RD1 , otherwise Count Back in subsequent rounds.[/QUOTE]
 

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ALT or LUCKY LOSER PLACEMENT BASICS

ALT = Player committing after FINAL DEADLINE and before start of PLAY (CHALLENGER main draw or ATP Q) , or players at end of entry list in full event.

LUCKY LOSER = Player losing in FQR , best losers are first to enter main draw and replace any missing picks.

After Final deadline for receiving picks , missing picks are replaced by ALTS/LL in CHALLENGER RD1 and QR1/RD1 ATP

2 MISSING PICKS SAME MATCH

- If there is a match with 2 missing picks, it takes placement priority , ALT1/LL1 and ALT2/LL2 will be placed in this spot
- If there is only 1 ALT available and you have a match with 2 missing pick , ALT1/LL1 is placed in this spot , then the top seed with an opponent receives a BYE, and opponent of this seed is moved to face the ALT/LL.
-If you have more then 2 ALTS/LL , ALT/LL 3 will play the lowest ranked player remaining without an opponent, and so on.
-If no ALT/LL are available with 2 missing picks in same match, best loser will advance to take place in next round

1 MISSING PICK per MATCH (MOST COMMON)

-List the matches with missing picks , and compare the ranking of the players that have sent (not those that are missing)
-Lowest on your entry list will face ALT/LL 1, next lowest ALT/LL 2, etc.
-any matches remaining with missing picks after ALT's are placed, receive a walkover to the next round.

DOUBLES

-works the same , 1 missing pick on a team is the same as 2 missing players picks on a team , they get replaced if an ALT/LL team both send picks
-only replaced on Day 1 of 2 in Round 1 , Day 2 no replacements


EXCEPTIONS

-if there are more ALT's then missing picks, the ALT's not getting to play are able to replace missing picks of players having RD1 BYES, as is such for RD48 in CHALLENGERS, if these ALT'S not placed send again for RD2, and a player that had a BYE does not send, the ALT would be placed into round 2 , with the same as round 1 rules, replacing the lowest ranked on the entry list that a seed with BYE is a missing pick against.

-it can get more complicated then this, once in a week 2 event we had 3 matches with 2 missing picks, that will take much more thought and close examining of rules if occurs again.
it's a rare case to have anything other then what is listed here.
 

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WEEK 14 EVENTS

#14a 06/04/2020 Houston USA CL 32/16/16/8 nachotuerto
#14b 06/04/2020 Marrakech MOR CL 32/16/16/8 a1canada
#14c 06/04/2020 Barletta CH ITA CL 48/24 Mahqz
#14d 06/04/2020 Florianopolis CH BRA H 48/24 Hidalgo
 

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Hopefully this tournament is not cancelled
 
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