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What effect has the pandemic caused break for the Slam count in tennis?

  • It does not matter. Tennis was on hold in the past, too.

    Votes: 4 26.7%
  • You damn well know Nadal and Djokovic would have gone past 20! Its meaningless now!

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Djokovic is the true victim here, because Federer and Nadal would have been done anyways

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Calm down, drama queen. Lets first see how many Slams get cancelled, then we can do the math

    Votes: 4 26.7%
  • Since clearly Federer is behind all this, he should be stripped of all the Slam titles

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Don't worry, Nadal and Djokovic will still pass the 20, they are unstoppable

    Votes: 3 20.0%
  • It all depends what Bill Gates has in mind and when he is going to cash in with the vaccine

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • I don't care about tennis right now. The world has bigger problems.

    Votes: 4 26.7%
  • I don't care about the Slam count, but I just want to say that Trump is a giant idiot

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Since it was obvious King Kyrgios would have won the next 3 Slams, they should award him the titles

    Votes: 4 26.7%
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The consequences of the pandemic become more and more clear. No French Open. No US Open. Maybe no Australian Open 2021. And who can tell after that? What if it takes longer to come up with a vaccine, or the virus mutates again?

Covid-19 pulled the plug in our beloved sport right when the fight for the most imporant tennis record reached peak excitement.

Federer, coming back from the grave to make it to 20, got his heart ripped out and light on fire by Djokovic at Wimbledon and failed to widen the gap. Then injury, operation, and the precious record finally seemed lost.

Nadal still guarding his epic fortress at Roland Garros and getting to beast mode at the US Open. He could already smell Federers blood before desaster struck.

Djokovic, finding his brutal determination again, being more clutch than ever, stacking up Slam after Slam, closing the gap.

I already waved the white flag and congratulated Djokovic to his upcoming GOAT status. But now, everything has changed.

Nadal will be at least 35 when he can fight again for a Slam title on clay. He was not able to practice due to strict measures in Spain. Getting himself into form again will be a long, grueling process.

Djokovic faces a different enemy - his own mind. With plenty of time to think, the question of "is it all worth it?" is likely to hunt the serb, with fake guru Pepe Imaz already lurking in the shadows. Furthermore, Djokovic outed himself as an anti-vaxxer, which will his return make more difficult.

So all in all, there is a very good chance that Federer will be keeing the Slam record.

Of course, "what if" discussion will rage for ages to come. The lost year in tennis will cause tards around the world to dig out their virtual asterisks and throw them at the Slam count.

But I say, when all is said and done, we have to bow down to the numbers. May 20 shine for eternity.
 

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It's always been a very crude measure of greatness - strength of era, strength of draw, luck within matches etc. all influence it a lot, especially when it's so close and you have the players against each other in finals. If a few shots go differently in Australian Open 2017 we're already on 21-19 Nadal. If Djokovic puts one into the net on match point Federer's on 21. If Nadal doesn't get cakewalk draws in the US Open in 2017 and 2019 maybe he's on 17. If Djokovic didn't have that weird two year spell where he couldn't do anything maybe he's on 23 or 24 with multiple CYGS and Federer and Nadal don't have their renaissances.

Those events going the way they did weren't inevitable because of the players' inherent greatness, it was just luck, the same as Coronavirus knocking off a few Grand Slams is luck. Corona makes it so the slam count means less now but its only ever been a measure of success rather than greatness.

Whatever happens with the Grand Slam race all three still have solid GOAT claims.
 

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Well history never likes a closed answer. History likes open ended discussion, which the virus now allows for all eternity, regardless of the final tallies
 

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It's always been a very crude measure of greatness - strength of era, strength of draw, luck within matches etc. all influence it a lot, especially when it's so close and you have the players against each other in finals. If a few shots go differently in Australian Open 2017 we're already on 21-19 Nadal. If Djokovic puts one into the net on match point Federer's on 21. If Nadal doesn't get cakewalk draws in the US Open in 2017 and 2019 maybe he's on 17. If Djokovic didn't have that weird two year spell where he couldn't do anything maybe he's on 23 or 24 with multiple CYGS and Federer and Nadal don't have their renaissances.

Those events going the way they did weren't inevitable because of the players' inherent greatness, it was just luck, the same as Coronavirus knocking off a few Grand Slams is luck. Corona makes it so the slam count means less now but its only ever been a measure of success rather than greatness.

Whatever happens with the Grand Slam race all three still have solid GOAT claims.
Well said. These guy have been inches away from solidifying greatness and taking down legacies.

They all have had plenty of luck
 

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Clearly God himself has spoken that Federer shall retain this record.
 

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The answer is very obvious: Just as meaningful, if not more. Why? Because finding a way to return to greatness after Covid will be yet another factor to be accounted in history books. There is no way out of this. It doesn't respect our subjective opinion. Personally I think it's unfair for tennis that any of the 3 has to be the one and only as their success, abilities doesn't match, they have mastered their own craft when it comes to surfaces and have their own peak. But the objective measure (number of slams) will forever prevail in the minds IMO, Covid will make it even more titanic achievement, a major part in the movie or something.
 

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Slam count has always been meaningless in the grand scheme of geological time
 
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