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Vince Spadea thinks he could take Donald Young Jr. to No. 1 player in the world. He thinks Young has more talent than Rios had. He’s faster, Vince said, they both had great hands, but Young is a better volleyer. Young has Rios’s ability to stroke the ball. Rios was not spectacular, Vince said, and that’s why he didn’t win any slams, but you don’t have to be spectacular to win slams. You have to have incredible technique, mechanics and heart. But Young is soft and Vince would step in the same way Stefanki stepped in and toughen him up. But the Youngs never called Vince back.

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Absolute nonsense.
That is the kneejerk reaction. But consider a few factors. Vince played and beat some no. 1s. Vince was a top 15 player and an ATP champion (Scottsdale). He has a good tennis eye and he saw some things in Young that you, I or some others could not see. Young should have worked with Vince for a trial basis.
 

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Is that the same Spadea that held a record of consecutive first round loses?

Until it was broken by ... Young?

Seems legit!
 

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Is that the same Spadea that held a record of consecutive first round loses?

Until it was broken by ... Young?

Seems legit!
You have to respect those who break your records, right? This is perhaps a bit much. Since the Don is too young (!) to have done it before Federer became #1 he'd either have to outcompete him, Nadal, Djokovic or Murray (with a smaller window for the latter). Can't see either happening.

Rios wouldn't have done it post 2004 either.
 

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"Rios was not spectacular, Vince said, and that’s why he didn’t win any slams, but you don’t have to be spectacular to win slams."
Not in terms of results, but Rios was one of the most spectacular players ever and had the best-looking strokes on tour along with Agassi and Korda.
 

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Thanks, i had a good laugh.

Funniest thing is i feel Donald "the ever" Young maxxed himself out. Someone like Mardy Fish had far more talent.
 

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Whar nonsense.

Guy was on Ok player but had no gifts. Only 183cm as well.

Could've been a left handed Youzny, that's it.
 

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Calling him more talented than Rios is pushing it a bit, but the general sentiment isn't THAT outrageous. He was a true teen prodigy, #1 in juniors and cracked the top 100 at 18. The Freddy Adu of tennis. I think what hurt him the most was being coached by his idiot parents his entire career, they wrecked all his potential. A different coach could have made all the difference. At some point you have to show balls and become your own man, he failed himself most of all
 

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Whar nonsense.

Guy was on Ok player but had no gifts. Only 183cm as well.

Could've been a left handed Youzny, that's it.
183 cm shouldn't be a big problem. Federer and Nadal are both 185, and they did OK. Unless you think 185 is the absolute lowest you can be and still have success?
 

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183 cm shouldn't be a big problem. Federer and Nadal are both 185, and they did OK. Unless you think 185 is the absolute lowest you can be and still have success?
Stan is 183 I think.
 

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That is the kneejerk reaction. But consider a few factors. Vince played and beat some no. 1s. Vince was a top 15 player and an ATP champion (Scottsdale). He has a good tennis eye and he saw some things in Young that you, I or some others could not see. Young should have worked with Vince for a trial basis.
Man, D Young and No.1 doesn't sound right even in a alternate universe by DC comics or some of that sh*t
 

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Young did not have 1/10th of the hands and talent of Rios.

You can't teach that.

Very basic player.
 

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Young did not have 1/10th of the hands and talent of Rios.

You can't teach that.

Very basic player.
Both were world no.1 juniors but Rios had better coaching influences from junior to early ATP years - Stefanki, Gildemeister, Lundgren. All top notch coaches and former pro players.

Young had his mom and dad who have zero pro tennis experience. Imagine if DY had the benefit of three top notch pro coaches like Stefanki, Lundgren and Hans Gildemeister in his developmental years. Young family screwed up big time.
 
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Young may be one of the biggest underachievers in modern history. It seems his parents wanted all the glory and credit for DY's pro success which never quite came. And it should have. They created a fantastic base foundation to build on but they never let him graduate to better more experienced coaches.
 

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unless you've played at the level of these players who make these comments, you really can't say much. What we as spectators of professionals see is far different than what comes at you on court. It may look like a player is useless to you, but his technic, balls, mechanics are only experienced when you're on court with him/her. So don't dismiss people just because you don't comprehend their perspective. I think it's an interesting take. And i think with every generation of new players, the skills are even more improved. Maybe Young should give him a call, it's not to late. After all men reach their prime later than women, who knows maybe Rudeski can take him to that next level, the way Thiem went to the next level with his coach.
 

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Both were world no.1 juniors but Rios had better coaching influences from junior to early ATP years - Stefanki, Gildemeister, Lundgren. All top notch coaches and former pro players.

Young had his mom and dad who have zero pro tennis experience. Imagine if DY had the benefit of three top notch pro coaches like Stefanki, Lundgren and Hans Gildemeister in his developmental years. Young family screwed up big time.
Yeah Young always seemed like a weird guy. Very insular, like he kept to himself and his group, rather than connecting to the wider tennis world.

A lot of American and Australian players seem like that nowadays.
 
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